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    Default raising with position to stifle nonsense

    I recently (1 minute ago) had a hand that went something like this..

    ***** Hand History for Game 2127807136 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Monday, May 30, 05:08:42 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36877 (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Jefftgiver ( $25 )
    Seat 2: Kutura1 ( $24.65 )
    Seat 3: Hormones ( $23.27 )
    Seat 4: ncat3k ( $29.95 )
    Seat 5: soco928 ( $4.45 )
    Seat 6: jaxbac ( $23.5 )
    Seat 7: DocRaoulDuke ( $76.45 )
    Seat 9: ckolkman ( $23.43 )
    Seat 10: flexmagic ( $45.67 )
    Seat 8: BlackEcstasy ( $25 )
    Hormones posts small blind [$0.1].
    ncat3k posts big blind [$0.25].
    BlackEcstasy posts big blind [$0.25].
    Jefftgiver posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to BlackEcstasy [ Qc 3d ]
    soco928 folds.
    jaxbac folds.
    DocRaoulDuke calls [$0.25].
    BlackEcstasy checks.
    ckolkman folds.
    flexmagic folds.
    Jefftgiver checks.
    Kutura1 folds.
    Hormones folds.
    ncat3k checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 2s, Qs ]
    ncat3k has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
    ncat3k checks.
    DocRaoulDuke checks.
    BlackEcstasy bets [$0.5].
    Jefftgiver folds.
    ncat3k has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
    ncat3k folds.
    DocRaoulDuke calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
    DocRaoulDuke bets [$1].
    BlackEcstasy raises [$2].
    DocRaoulDuke calls [$1].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
    DocRaoulDuke checks.
    BlackEcstasy checks.
    DocRaoulDuke shows [ Ks, Th ] high card king.
    BlackEcstasy shows [ Qc, 3d ] a pair of queens.
    BlackEcstasy wins $5.8 from the main pot with a pair of queens.
    >You have options at Table 37292 Table!.

    Now i had top pair with crappy kicker and 3 other limpers, so obviously i was worried i was outgunned. Nevertheless, I made a rather wimpy looking bet on the flop and got one caller, conviently the guy right behind me (I suspect he called because he saw no one else call).

    Of course, I was worried he had me beat, or he was going to hit his draw, but when the turn didnt bring any obvious draw hits I was a little happier.

    However he bets into me on the turn, which had me worried. Did he have me outkicked? Was he trying to setup a bluff on the river? So I came with this nice idea which was to minraise him another dollar. The idea was if he was drawing he'd have to pay more. If he had a good hand I'd get reraised and I'd know to fold. Most importantly, after calling my raise it would look very awkward on his part to make a large bet on the river unless an obvious draw hit. He was forced to check instead of trying to steal the pot (which might have worked) and I then checked too and ended up winning. This type of raise only works with position though, as in reverse the onus would be on you to make a bet on the river.

    Any thoughts? Anyone seen this talked about before?

    -Black E
  2. #2
    nice freaking reasoning.
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    The only thing I'd change is to possibly make the reraise a tad bigger. Your reasoning is perfect though. Good job.
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  5. #5
    Thanks for the insight.....I can add this one to my bag of tools, which is still quite small BTW.

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