Tough Decision, Real Poker Training v. restarting bankroll

[vqc]

SO,
I had recently taken out ALL of my poker money out of all of my PP/skins accounts in order to fund an anniversary present.

NOW,
I have around 100 bucks to restart my bankroll.
The question is:
I only play SNGs and tourneys and I have only played at PP/skins before.
Should I
a) Sign up at Real Poker Training, NSXT2's site, before the prices go up, and study up ALOT on poker.
b) Start playing SNGs again using my 100 dollars. Then the question becomes what site, and consequently what level.

[TylerK]

I would lean toward putting it all into your bankroll. Todd's site is good, but it's not much help to you if you can't afford to actually play. Why can't you just use $50 for BR and $50 for your subscription though? Deposit into a site that has $1 or $2 SNGs to build the roll.

[a500lbgorilla]

OR make 50 real quick and then get realpokertraining.

-'rilla

[aokrongly]

Put it in your bankroll. Don't think twice about it.

[UG]

Put it in your bankroll. Don't think twice about it.

Quoted for truth.

[vqc]

What site has 2 dollar sngs?

[aokrongly]

Pacific Poker, great site for cheap SnG's, very fishy

[Resources]

personally, i value knowledge above money.....so my opinions may be a little biased.

i feel that through knowledge, you will gain alot more in the long run. why risk blowing $100 experimenting yourself, when you can read somebody else's opinons, past mistakes, strategies, etc.

on that note, i would not recommend getting nsxt2's services at this time if you only have a $100 BR. instead, invest $20 on either Slansky's Theory of Poker.....or better yet, Harrington's guide on NL tourneys (not sure if i spelled the author's names right.....sorry if i didn't). when you build your bankroll up to $150-200, it will be a good time to "tweak" your game by dropping $50 and watching NSXT2's videos.

personally, i would highly recommend playing at stars. alot of people complain that stars doesn't have alot of fish......but the only way you're going to improve your game is to play w/ people your level and above and learning from their tatics. as stated before, i strongly feel that knowlege is more valuable than money......with knowlege, comes a big pay day in the future.

[vqc]

I have HoH and i read it religiously on the toilet.

[youngblood]

personally, i value knowledge above money.....so my opinions may be a little biased.

i feel that through knowledge, you will gain alot more in the long run. why risk blowing $100 experimenting yourself, when you can read somebody else's opinons, past mistakes, strategies, etc.

on that note, i would not recommend getting NSXT2's services at this time if you only have a $100 BR. instead, invest $20 on either Slansky's Theory of Poker.....or better yet, Harrington's guide on NL tourneys (not sure if i spelled the author's names right.....sorry if i didn't). when you build your bankroll up to $150-200, it will be a good time to "tweak" your game by dropping $50 and watching NSXT2's videos.

personally, i would highly recommend playing at stars. alot of people complain that stars doesn't have alot of fish......but the only way you're going to improve your game is to play w/ people your level and above and learning from their tatics. as stated before, i strongly feel that knowlege is more valuable than money......with knowlege, comes a big pay day in the future.

Only real way to gain that knowledge is to invest the 100$ and learn from your own mistakes,it's one thing to read anothers mistakes but to really get the full value of that mistake you must go through.Only way to truely get better..You can read all the books in the world but only thru pratice will you obtain knowledge

[eeeee]

I have HoH and i read it religiously on the toilet.

T M I, thankyouverymuch

[vqc]

Im sure we all have our guilty pleasures while on the toilet...
mine just happens to be mr harrington.

[Resources]

Only real way to gain that knowledge is to invest the 100$ and learn from your own mistakes,it's one thing to read anothers mistakes but to really get the full value of that mistake you must go through.Only way to truely get better..You can read all the books in the world but only thru pratice will you obtain knowledge

i agree that the only way to truely master and tweak your play to a winning strategy is to experiment on your own and figure out your own strengths and weaknesses.....and fixing, enforcing them. BUT, why make completely bonehead mistakes that could cost you HUNDREDS of dollars, when you could just read a book and learn basic COMMON mistakes of others?

when i first began playing, i had the very common mistake of "any two cards can win". it took me many SnG losses.....before i finally realized my mistake.

now, no offense vqchaung, but when i read the reply - i had no idea what "level" of play you were at.

youngblood - if VQchaung WAS completely new to the poker world.....what is the point of him wasting $100 on stupid mistakes that could have been easily countered by reading a good book/guide?

"you can read all the books in the world but only thru practice will you obtain knowledge."

again, stressing the obvious. we are all students of the game. books are there for a reason. they are there to show you past senarios, past mistakes, opinions, and insights of the BEST POKER PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. your statement about how poker books "cannot help you gain knowlege" is like saying "soupie's MTT guide will not help my MTT play because only through blowing $500 on playing 100 different MTTs over and over and figuring out the mistakes on my own....will i be able to learn how to play MTTs". instead you need to look at it like "by reading soupie's guide, i will be able to minimize my losses during my learning process by not repeating common past mistakes."

books and guides are there to minimize your losses in the learning process and should not be thrown out the window as a waste of time (or how you're making it sound like).

i will be willing to put a $500 bet down on the following:

two brand new players. each starts with a $200 bankroll

player #1, jumps right into online poker w/o ever reading a single guide or book.

player #2, invests $100 of his bankroll on 4 books (slansky TOP, HoH, slansky on hold'em, and supersystems) and after reading the 4 books begans playing with his now $100 bankroll

I guarantee that player #2 will have a larger bankroll in 4-6months than player #1.


books are an investment to help you avoid the COMMON downfall of many new players. of course, after you read the books, in order to perfect your play - you must play for real in order to "get the full value of your mistakes". But you cut down your losses by an incredible amount.

think about it - ToP is $20. if you can learn just ONE thing that will help you win ONE more SnG, you just got the book for free - but the knowlege that you learned from the book....will stay forever and continue to make you money.

[DavSimon]

Im sure we all have our guilty pleasures while on the toilet...
mine just happens to be mr harrington.

Siged....
Take the $100 and play with it.....the knowledge you will get from Real Poker Training will be wothless unless you can actively use it and try to adapt the ideas to your style of play.

[aokrongly]

Add my vote to Harrington on Holdem!