Why MTTs drive me crazy, and a question

[TylerK]

I was playing a MTT at work and doing fairly well until I busted out on this hand where I made the right call with the wrong results.

Check out my flop bet. My hope was that my weak bet would get the opponent to come over the top of me, which he didn't end up doing until the turn. I called because I figured that he was doing what I hoped he would do on the flop, which ended up being true, but should I have saved the risk and just bet big on the flop?

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PokerStars Game #1038856221: Tournament #4333008, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/01/04 - 21:43:36 (ET) Table '4333008 116' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: cincykyid (2083 in chips) Seat 2: issagi (12834 in chips) Seat 3: EGreg (7464 in chips) is sitting out Seat 4: moneyball99 (6440 in chips) Seat 5: tnacin (4789 in chips) Seat 6: Jaccuse (5614 in chips) Seat 7: fricky12 (4527 in chips) Seat 8: SweetWaterBK (6280 in chips) Seat 9: TylerK (5405 in chips)
TylerK: posts small blind 100
cincykyid: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TylerK [8s 8h]
issagi: calls 200
EGreg: folds
moneyball99: folds
tnacin: folds
Jaccuse: folds
fricky12: folds
SweetWaterBK: folds
TylerK: raises 600 to 800
cincykyid: folds
issagi: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Ad Tc 8c]
TylerK: bets 200
issagi: calls 200
*** TURN *** [Ad Tc 8c] [6c]
TylerK: bets 500
issagi: raises 4500 to 5000
TylerK: calls 3905 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Ad Tc 8c 6c] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TylerK: shows [8s 8h] (three of a kind, Eights)
issagi: shows [Kc Qd] (a flush, King high) TylerK said, "ouch"
issagi collected 11010 from pot
TylerK [observer] said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11010 | Rake 0
Board [Ad Tc 8c 6c 9c]
Seat 1: cincykyid (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: issagi showed [Kc Qd] and won (11010) with a flush, King high Seat 3: EGreg folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: moneyball99 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: tnacin folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Jaccuse folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: fricky12 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: SweetWaterBK (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: TylerK (small blind) showed [8s 8h] and lost with three of a kind, Eights

[Sed]

Trips are nice to catch but with that flop there are a lot of card that can scare you on the turn in an unraised pot... K Q J 9 7 or a club (about half the damn deck). There's a double gutshot and the flush looming over you. In that position I will always bet to take away pot odds when there is a flush and strt draw on the board. If there was only a single ended/gutshot straight draw the risk might be worth weakbetting it.

- sed

[|~|ypermegachi]

personally i don't like the flop underbet, but your hand is almost unbeatable at this point...but still you don't want your opponent cheap chances to draw out on you.

[AllinLife]

work+poker=bad

lay it down man

[TylerK]

personally i don't like the flop underbet, but your hand is almost unbeatable at this point...but still you don't want your opponent cheap chances to draw out on you.

Against most opponents I would not play the flop that way, but I fully expected this guy to come back over the top of me if I feigned weakness on the flop.

[Tim Vecchioni]

he did go all in on a draw.....

[TylerK]

he did go all in on a draw.....

Yeah, it's true, and he did end up doing exactly what I wanted him to do. I was a 75% favorite to win at that point, so I guess I shouldn't even be worried about it.

[TheDoc]

my rule if i flop a set, 2 to a flush on the board, all in.

[michael1123]

You did bet it way too weak. A bet of 800 still looks rather weak, as its just what you bet preflop, and still could easily be a last ditch effort to steal a pot. Minbetting it after betting 4xBB preflop looks extremely obvious that you're slowplaying. I'd be putting you on AA or TT here, and would've called on the flop in his spot as you're laying him ridiculous implied odds, but obviously not shoved on the turn in his spot.