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  1. #1

    Default What did I do wrong?

    Hi,
    This effing beat just took the wind out of my sails.. I understand she's got a gut shot chance, but look at how many bets this person called pre-flop UTG.

    #Game No : 996517071
    ***** Hand History for Game 996517071 *****
    $0.5/$1 Hold'em - Tuesday, September 28, 00:36:37 EDT 2004
    Table Table 14410 (Real Money)
    Seat 7 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 3: Rogan323 ( $26.5 )
    Seat 4: Dace0704 ( $29.87 )
    Seat 10: BaronV ( $26.25 )
    Seat 8: Drizzt91 ( $21.5 )
    Seat 6: Kuckc ( $24.25 )
    Seat 9: Mul99 ( $17 )
    Seat 2: tee_rob ( $25 )
    Seat 7: chriskessel ( $24.25 )
    Seat 1: vip_chump ( $25 )
    Drizzt91 posts small blind [$0.25].
    Mul99 posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Drizzt91 [ Ac As ]
    BaronV folds.
    Rogan323 raises [$1].
    Dace0704 calls [$1].
    Kuckc folds.
    chriskessel folds.
    Drizzt91 raises [$1.25].
    Mul99 folds.
    Rogan323 calls [$0.5].
    Dace0704 calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 2h, 4s ]
    Drizzt91 bets [$0.5].
    Rogan323 raises [$1].
    Dace0704 calls [$1].
    Drizzt91 raises [$1].
    GoCollin has joined the table.
    Rogan323 calls [$0.5].
    Dace0704 calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
    Drizzt91 bets [$1].
    Rogan323 calls [$1].
    Dace0704 raises [$2].
    Drizzt91 raises [$2].
    Rogan323 folds.
    Dace0704 raises [$2].
    Drizzt91 calls [$1].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
    Drizzt91 bets [$1].
    Dace0704 raises [$2].
    Drizzt91 calls [$1].
    Dace0704 shows [ Ks, 5d ] a straight, three to seven.
    Drizzt91 doesn't show [ Ac, As ] a pair of aces.
    Dace0704 wins $21.50 from the main pot with a straight, three to seven.
    Game #996521274 starts.

    KING FRIKING 5 offsuite... are you kidding me? Please tell me I played this wrong so I can sleep tonight.


    Also I think I should have called here, but I knew he had me beat on the turn...
    #Game No : 996640719
    ***** Hand History for Game 996640719 *****
    $0.5/$1 Hold'em - Tuesday, September 28, 01:08:41 EDT 2004
    Table Table 14410 (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 3: Rogan323 ( $45 )
    Seat 10: BaronV ( $19 )
    Seat 8: Drizzt91 ( $10.25 )
    Seat 6: Kuckc ( $40.5 )
    Seat 1: vip_chump ( $38.75 )
    Seat 5: GoCollin ( $1.25 )
    Seat 9: Tazman1414 ( $11.75 )
    Seat 7: hblume ( $17 )
    Seat 2: slowreader ( $50.5 )
    Kuckc posts small blind [$0.25].
    hblume posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Drizzt91 [ Ad Qd ]
    Drizzt91: Nice slowplay
    Drizzt91 calls [$0.5].
    Tazman1414 folds.
    BaronV calls [$0.5].
    vip_chump folds.
    slowreader raises [$1].
    Drizzt91: Or you bet, my bad
    Rogan323 folds.
    GoCollin is all-In.
    Kuckc folds.
    hblume folds.
    Drizzt91 calls [$0.75].
    chaudawg has joined the table.
    BaronV folds.
    slowreader raises [$0.75].
    Drizzt91 calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 7s, Jh ]
    Drizzt91 checks.
    slowreader bets [$0.5].
    Drizzt91 calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
    Drizzt91 checks.
    slowreader bets [$1].
    Drizzt91: Are you going to show em?
    Drizzt91 folds.
    ** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
    slowreader shows [ Js, As ] two pairs, jacks and sevens.
    GoCollin doesn't show [ Ah, 3s ] two pairs, sevens and threes.
    slowreader wins $3 from side pot #1 with two pairs, jacks and sevens.
    slowreader wins $4.50 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and sevens.
    Game #996645673 starts.

    And finally this is what ended my session....

    #Game No : 996645673
    ***** Hand History for Game 996645673 *****
    $0.5/$1 Hold'em - Tuesday, September 28, 01:10:02 EDT 2004
    Table Table 14410 (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 3: Rogan323 ( $45 )
    Seat 10: BaronV ( $18.5 )
    Seat 8: Drizzt91 ( $8 )
    Seat 6: Kuckc ( $40.25 )
    Seat 1: vip_chump ( $38.75 )
    Seat 5: GoCollin ( $0 )
    Seat 9: Tazman1414 ( $11.75 )
    Seat 7: hblume ( $16.5 )
    Seat 2: slowreader ( $54.75 )
    Seat 4: chaudawg ( $9 )
    hblume posts small blind [$0.25].
    Drizzt91 posts big blind [$0.5].
    GoCollin has left the table.
    chaudawg posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Drizzt91 [ Jc Ad ]
    Tazman1414 calls [$0.5].
    BaronV folds.
    vip_chump folds.
    slowreader folds.
    Rogan323 calls [$0.5].
    chaudawg raises [$0.5].
    Kuckc folds.
    hblume folds.
    Drizzt91 calls [$0.5].
    Tazman1414 calls [$0.5].
    Rogan323 calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 3s, As ]
    Drizzt91 bets [$0.5].
    Tazman1414 calls [$0.5].
    Rogan323 folds.
    chaudawg calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
    Drizzt91 bets [$1].
    Tazman1414 calls [$1].
    chaudawg calls [$1].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
    Drizzt91 bets [$1].
    Tazman1414 calls [$1].
    chaudawg folds.
    Drizzt91 shows [ Jc, Ad ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
    Tazman1414 shows [ 6s, 2s ] a flush, ace high.
    Tazman1414 wins $10.25 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.
    Game #996649313 starts.

    Should I have raised? Would it have mattered?
  2. #2

    Default Re: What did I do wrong?

    Hey there. Doesn't seem like you had too good a night does it?

    First off, you're playing $0.5/$1. Lots of folks have plenty of $$ to throw away so they'll play this level, call with anything and "gamble." If you wanna make money off them you have to put yourself in the right frame of mind. That frame of mind is that you WANT people calling with crap like K5o and 62s when you have better hands. In the LONG RUN, which is what you have to focus on, those hands will lose out to yours more often than not.

    The one thing I see here in all 3 hands, you're in terrible position. You're in early position in multiway pots. When you're in early position, the more opponents you're against the harder the flop has to hit you. If it misses, you really gotta consider folding to some aggression unless you feel that your hand is still the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by AKsuckit
    Hi,
    This effing beat just took the wind out of my sails.. I understand she's got a gut shot chance, but look at how many bets this person called pre-flop UTG.

    #Game No : 996517071

    KING FRIKING 5 offsuite... are you kidding me? Please tell me I played this wrong so I can sleep tonight.

    Aces in the small blind against 2 opponents. Not a great situation (I've folded aces from this position before, after seeing the flop came rather threatening and having 6 or so preflop-limpers in front of me all get aggressive with the betting), as they both have position on you. Raise preflop was correct and bet on the flop was correct. After that the person who had been passive preflop and on the flop suddenly gets aggressive when a possible straight appears. At this point you gotta go by your read on this person: does she play trash? does she only come out firing when they've got a solid hand? She's not trying to slow down the betting on the turn, so is it likely that she has a made hand (she was open-ended, btw, it wasn't a gutshot) and is now raising for value?

    Is it possible you saw aces in your hand and weren't concerned about the others because you feel aces are supposed to hold up all the time? (*whispers* they aren't going to so get used to it)

    check-call to the river after her raise on 4th street is what you should have done (or you could have folded if you had a good read)

    Quote Originally Posted by AKsuckit
    Also I think I should have called here, but I knew he had me beat on the turn...

    #Game No : 996640719
    AQ under the gun. Yuck. Correct to limp preflop, but you might have thought about re-raising since you were suited, especially with someone all-in. (offsuit you probably just call here) However, slowreader likely thought he had the best hand, especially with your passive calls.

    Flop comes fairly non-threatening. If it was me I'd have bet out to see what was out there, or check-folded having missed the flop and the pot wasn't big enough to justify chasing with only 6 (or as it turns out, only 3) outs, especially against a single opponent who has position on you. Any money you put in after your opponent bets is the flop is wasted. Maybe he had something, maybe he didn't, but YOU didn't have the odds to continue at that point. You've got to fold on the flop.

    Quote Originally Posted by AKsuckit
    Game #996645673 starts.

    And finally this is what ended my session....

    #Game No : 996645673

    Should I have raised? Would it have mattered?
    I hate Ace-Jack. Hate it with a passion because it's a difficult hand to win with. Even worse is trying to win with it from early position. Also, I almost guarantee chaudawg had a better hand than you preflop (looks like Kings or Queens).

    Limping early is fine, especially out of the big blind. And the flop hits you prety well. At this point you're betting into a multi-way field with a draw out there. Good bet, and since chaudawg doesn't raise it's likely your pair of aces is good, but you should be asking yourself why is Tazman calling?

    Turn pairs the board. Makes your hand stronger. Good to bet again. But both call. At this point you're REALLY wanting them both to fold but they don't. c'est la vis I'm convinced Tazman is drawing to the spade flush.

    River makes a possible flush. Could be Tazman's made his draw. The only thing you get here by betting is a raise or fold. Check-call if you HAVE to know, or check-fold if you're more than 85% convinced Tazman made his draw. (because the pot ~$8, you've got to be correct to fold in this position more than 1 in 8 to make money off it)

    Also, Tazman missed a raise there. I'd have raised since I'd have known you were going to pay me off or even re-raise me.
  3. #3
    Hand 1:
    With a single card straight out on the turn, I'd either call it down or fold right there.

    Hand 2:
    Raise pre-flop, bet the flop and go from there.

    Hand 3:
    Well played. Maybe raise pre-flop. Be glad he was too passive to raise the river.

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