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[Hoopy]

Fancy playing some werewolf? Then get in the game!

Rough setup is as follows. Days will probably be 72hrs with 24hr nights.

16 players needed, can add more if interest is high.

Alright I pieced together what my setup was.

16 players total.

Seer - 1 lookup each night, only finds out if wolf or villager.

Priest - May protect 1 player each night, loses power if successful.

Tough Guy - If attacked at night survives for 1/2 of the next day.

8 Villagers

Miller - Appears as a wolf to the seer.

Cursed - If attacked at night they become a wolf. Cannot win with the village, must join the wolves to win.

3 Wolves - 1 Kill per night.

Tough Guy and Miller do not know their powers until they are activated/made clear.

Thoughts? I've tried to make it so a mass claim early on is difficult.

Currently In
dhuber
BID
Luco
Ong
wuf
bigred
baudib
JKDS
ur mom

[OngBonga]

[in gif]

[wufwugy]

[wufwugy]

My posting will be much less than normal. I don't want none of youse guyses shit about how I'm not wufing

[OngBonga]

Yeah yeah who cares I'm lynching you d1 whatever happens. I'm sick of lynching baudib d1, and besides his mom asked me to be nice to him and I'm not arguing with baudib's mom.

[OngBonga]

Sigh wuf ur mom just told me to be nice to you too.

Oh and she wants you to call her. Leave it an hour though please.

[dhubermex]

Something tells me I'm going to really enjoy playing this game... looking forward to it!

[BankItDrew]

Oh god i hope i'm not cursed. i don't recall ever getting nommed... although wolves tried last game.

I'd like to be seer for once

[wufwugy]

bid is seer every time, just doesnt realize it

[bigred]

I will play this game and by play i mean post cat pictures and go awol for 3 weeks. But IN!!!!

[OngBonga]

Lucky wuf.

[baudib]

in if this starts in a week or more.

[BankItDrew]

bid is seer every time, just doesnt realize it

<3

sometimes i don't know where I am or what I'm doing

not sure how I'm still alive

[wufwugy]

that's why

[JKDS]

Im in. I'll be drastically changing my argumentative style. Its time to start lawyering in ww.

[Hoopy]

I will play this game and by play i mean post cat pictures and go awol for 3 weeks. But IN!!!!

The master returns.

Im in. I'll be drastically changing my argumentative style. Its time to start lawyering in ww.

Oh god.

[Luco]

Im in. I'll be drastically changing my argumentative style. Its time to start lawyering in ww.

[Keith]

in

[bigred]

I want my tic tac, luco

[Luco]

I want my tic tac, luco

LOL, I actually have signatures disabled so I tend to forget about my own

[JKDS]

Way to spoil it! Jesus!

[baudib]

I was Ser Bronn (odd-night vig) in a 69-player GoT mash and got night killed. I took out Khaleesi (alpha wolf) though.

so i'm free to in

[JKDS]

Alpha wolf Khaleesi is fucking awesome. Great tie in to the theme and a really cool game mechanic. Epic.

[baudib]

yeah the game is epic. there were at least 4 wolf factions (Baratheons, Starks, Targaryens, Wildings) and a neutral party (Others), lost wolves who can be converted to villagers (Arya, Sansa).

It feels a bit icky but the Lannisters and their "allies" are the villagers.

[aubreymcfate]

i'm gonna be in santa fe nov. 21 - dec. 2 and so my posting will be uber minimal during that period. it will be on the minimal side for the most part regardless. that being said, throw this deadweight bitch on the list.

[bigred]

Is there a link to that got game? Sounds epic

[OngBonga]

Oh yeah you'll read a game from another site that doesn't matter, but you'll lolcat games here.

[OngBonga]

That reads more serious than intended.

[OngBonga]

I'm probably gonna bigred my way through this game in all fairness.

[daven]

i'll be up for lynching baudib day one and leading a mob on some innocent villager on day 2.
That's irrespective of whether i'm wolf or villager obviously.

[baudib]

Is there a link to that got game? Sounds epic

BigRedGOAT: It's day 2 in that game and there are 8,000 posts already. I don't think you wanna.

no one in the game knows how the factions are set up or how the game is designed, it might be interesting to look at when it's over.

[Hoopy]

Currently In
dhuber
BID
Luco
Ong
wuf
bigred
baudib
JKDS
keith
daven
aubrey

Waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy in
ur mom

How do people feel about the seer having a lookup on n0?

[Hoopy]

BigRedGOAT: It's day 2 in that game and there are 8,000 posts already. I don't think you wanna.

no one in the game knows how the factions are set up or how the game is designed, it might be interesting to look at when it's over.

How the fuck do people remember whose playing? And how does anyone have the time to read through the thread?

[baudib]

Each game day is 13 hours, thread closes for an 11-hour night.

So typically a handful of people will be almost always on, keeping track of significant developments, making charts of who killed who/when/how (there are in thread attacks and "events" daily).

when a significant wolf flips, there's some rereading for spew but really, a lot is missed. no one is rereading the thread a lot. it's more like a chatroom than a forum thread. for instance, I got killed by a faction and 8 hours later, most people forgot it even existed. it's rough for the village but there's a ton of W on W violence too.

[Keith]

have you pm'd gator jyms gabe etc or any of the people in the thread at the top of the WW forum for people who wwant to be notified.

[OngBonga]

How the fuck do people remember whose playing?

It's not my playing, is it yours?

[OngBonga]

it's rough for the village but there's a ton of W on W violence too.

What's the point in w-w violence if noone remembers who killed who? I think optimal strategy in a game like that is to shamelessly buddy up to the wolves and use your numbers.

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On-In

[daven]

BigRedGOAT: It's day 2 in that game and there are 8,000 posts already. I don't think you wanna.

@ Hoopy - can we please put a maximum posts per player per day rule in place for this game?

[Keith]

yeah , bigred is a pain in the arse when he spams the thread.

[baudib]

@ Hoopy - can we please put a maximum posts per player per day rule in place for this game?

yes do this. unencumbered i'll post 300 times/24 hours easily.

[baudib]

What's the point in w-w violence if noone remembers who killed who? I think optimal strategy in a game like that is to shamelessly buddy up to the wolves and use your numbers.

to win the game.

some outed wolves have tried to negotiate with info on other wolf factions but it hasn't worked so far.

[JKDS]

How do people feel about the seer having a lookup on n0?

My feelings are

1) On sites that do this, there are generally a large number of games constantly running. So the flaw of 2) is deminished.

2) When the seer binks, the game may be over for one player before they even got a chance to play. Thats only if the seer outs, but still.

Im kinda meh on it, because optimal wolf strategy at that point is to play from day1 assuming one of them is caught.

[baudib]

My feelings are

1) On sites that do this, there are generally a large number of games constantly running. So the flaw of 2) is deminished.

2) When the seer binks, the game may be over for one player before they even got a chance to play. Thats only if the seer outs, but still.

Im kinda meh on it, because optimal wolf strategy at that point is to play from day1 assuming one of them is caught.

there's an easy fix for this, make the n0 lookup a randomized villager.

it's the way it's handled in turbos where i play.

it makes D1 a lot more interesting IMO.

the game i talked about where we killed 2 wolves in our first 2 chances and then almost lost was one where the seer binked. I thought he should have held onto it longer, but he left his lookup in an ambiguous way that he could have done as a vanilla.

It was pretty interesting because the wolves realized he was the seer but the villagers didn't take it seriously, we just barely lynched the guy because he went AFK (full anti-spew). I caught another wolf when he started talking about the first guy being "a peeked wolf" and vigged him.

but yeah it put the wolves in a shitty spot.

[JKDS]

I forgot, obv theres the whole "it makes the seer stronger --> village stronger --> fucks with balance" stuff too

[baudib]

I forgot, obv theres the whole "it makes the seer stronger --> village stronger --> fucks with balance" stuff too

not going to detail it but

in games that are based almost entirely on seer cover

as a wolf i was alive for 5 nights over 2 games and we blocked or killed a village special all 5 nights; these were games with a true n0 lookup. Not gonna lie, i was largely responsible for all of them. Also we had two wolves considered lock clear because of weaknesses in the system.

smart wolf teams can exploit it because lolwillagers

[Hoopy]

have you pm'd gator jyms gabe etc or any of the people in the thread at the top of the WW forum for people who wwant to be notified.

PM'd the following people.

Galapogos;TLR; gabe; donkbee; Warpe; jyms; GatorJH; a500lbgorilla; rong; jackvance; ImSavy; NightGizmo; XTR1000; DropTheBanana; fulksy; bikes; boost; kingnat;

[Hoopy]

It's not my playing, is it yours?

Nope, let's leave it on someone's doorstep and never speak of it again.

[Hoopy]

@ Hoopy - can we please put a maximum posts per player per day rule in place for this game?

Seems like the village always want to murder high post count people anyway.

yeah , bigred is a pain in the arse when he spams the thread.

With cats.

yes do this. unencumbered i'll post 300 times/24 hours easily.

This is actually possible, because it's you.

[baudib]

i posted 700 times in 72 hours (3 game days) as a wolf

i was top poster, not by a lot (several people were doing 200 per day)

[wufwugy]

Hate n0 lookup. WTF are you looking up? Nothing, because nobody has done nothing so far

[baudib]

ur dumb wuf

[bigred]

BigRedGOAT: It's day 2 in that game and there are 8,000 posts already. I don't think you wanna.

no one in the game knows how the factions are set up or how the game is designed, it might be interesting to look at when it's over.

Fuuuuuuuck that

[bigred]

Look at all you nerds and your analysis. NERDS. WW is about feels and lolcats and intuition and more cats.

[bigred]

i posted 700 times in 72 hours (3 game days) as a wolf

i was top poster, not by a lot (several people were doing 200 per day)

Get a job, nerd. We spank nerds with moon rocks. Drop your sweat pants.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Hate n0 lookup. WTF are you looking up? Nothing, because nobody has done nothing so far

The whole start of the game is poorly constructed. The first action in the game is the villagers string someone up, because - ummm. Why?

It would do a whole lot for the plot of the game if some hypothetical villager (the mod) was nommed on n0.

Having a n0 special isn't any more of a weird beginning than having the village just randomly lynch someone for no reason on d1, anyway.

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Oh yeah... I had another dream about our previous game last night. Apparently, you all have midwest American accents.

If I can't get away from FTR WW in my sleep, I may as well join in. At least I can get my obligatory shame-lynch for last game in early.

[wufwugy]

It would do a whole lot for the plot of the game if some hypothetical villager (the mod) was nommed on n0.

That's the way it is, we just don't write it up like that anymore and probably a lot of players have simply forgotten

Some of it's probably my fault since my mods are purely utilitarian

[JKDS]

Story telling is hard yo.

[baudib]

like 90% of D1 talk is about the EV of lynching inactives, or lynching people based off what they did in past games.

if you give the seer an action n0, it gives potentially everyone something to do.

[JKDS]

Not here it doesnt. Here we'd get to speculate on which of Gabe/rilla got looked up, and which one of their "im quiet day 1" strategies is wolfier.

Granted, we shouldnt be wasting time talking about inactives day 1. But there also isnt really a good way to go about doing day1...especially when we've all figured out that just being quieter means your less noticeable, and then baudib gets lynched.

[baudib]

Gabe/Rilla are probably terrible n0 lookups, plus it could just be a random villager lookup.

[wufwugy]

if somebody told me they could play +ev on n0 i would call bullshit. if you can't bold, you ain't playin yet

[MadMojoMonkey]

Pretty sure wuf's mom was bolded on n0.

[baudib]

if somebody told me they could play +ev on n0 i would call bullshit. if you can't bold, you ain't playin yet

the point is not to play n0. the point is to start D1 with more than 0 information.

also i'm pretty sure the past two games here have proven that posting in night hours can make a major impact on the game even if you can't bold yet.

[JKDS]

If you want to do that, I like the innocent child role for that much better.

[Hoopy]

Pretty sure wuf's mom was bolded on n0.

Can confirm.

Story telling is hard yo.

I kind of a have a story to go with this game.

[bigred]

Have we started yet? I have a 3 day attention span.

lynch hoopy

[Hoopy]

bigred, a regular troll, was modkilled day 0.

[Keith]

great we started ....hoopy shaping up to be a great mod

[OngBonga]

I haven't got a midwest American accent. Your dreams are stupid mojo. I have a Brummie accent. Here's a famous Brummie presenting a tv programme that just happens to have on it a beautiful poker player being a bitch.

[OngBonga]

n0 seer lookup sucks. What info does that give to anyone on d1 who isn't the seer?

[baudib]

the possibilities for both teams are far more complex than you can imagine.

for one example, let's say seer peeks Big Red v. Big Red hasn't even posted yet and people are pushing him for a lynch.

Two players say they don't like lynching BR, and gently nudge other wagons forward as alternatives.

The possibility that Big Red is a peeked villager adds a new dynamic to the game with many new possible lines for both sides.

[baudib]

just so you guys know, I'm going to give myself the role of seer/vig/tracker. every night i will submit 3 actions based on those roles and let Hoopy sort it out.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I have a Brummie accent. Here's a famous Brummie presenting a tv programme

You have a game show called Golden Balls, in which the point of the game is sit face to face with someone and bluff the living shit out of them. Then you choose the winner by those 2 people comparing their balls.

So much meta.

The suggested Nash Equilibrium is to choose steal. If both have chosen steal, then neither can improve by unilaterally switching to split. However, since they don't lose by the switch, it's a bit different than a typical "Faustian Bargain".

The guy nails it in this vid where he takes the line, "I'm going to steal. There's nothing to do about it. If you pick steal, then neither gets anything at all. If you pick split, then I win... and I will split some (half) of the money with you. Trust me. I'm going to steal." This puts the decision on the other person as having advantage to playing split, where playing steal is a clear loss. This line breaks the flaw presented by the pseudo-Faustian bargain wide open.

[Hoopy]

Just need 3 more people to start this. I'll probably start the game after the weekend so everyone is around.