4nl 88 in BB interesting spot OTT

[WeldPhaser]

villain is 23/26/11 , ATT-steal on BU= 44%, cbfl=65% , fold-tocbet=0% , has raised flcbet=2/3 times . over 150

So, flat pre because i don't know what to do if he 4b's..

OTF: I raise his cbet thinking maybe he'll re-raise his draws , and I can just get it in here..

anybody dislike the raise? explain?


Revolution Gaming Network - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $4.33
Hero (BB): $4.16
UTG: $5.08
CO: $3.98
BTN: $3.70

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.11, fold, Hero calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.24, 2 players) 9 5 6
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.48

Turn: ($1.44, 2 players) 8
?????

[WeldPhaser]

whoops i didnt mean to post yet...

Now that i hit my set, and the FD got there and the straight. This is a funny spot.

[Pascal]

Good place to start would be run a Pokerstove sim on that board of 88 against his possible range that 3bets your c/r

[daven]

check turn

flop check-raise is fine so long as you're planning to fold to a 3b. So is donking.
i'm not sure why you want to get it in on the flop if he 3bets your checkraise, you really aren't in great shape vs 78/99+/Adxd - i mean, you need a running suckout to win vs most of that range, and the rest of it has 11+ outs against you.

[WeldPhaser]

check turn

flop check-raise is fine so long as you're planning to fold to a 3b. So is donking.
i'm not sure why you want to get it in on the flop if he 3bets your checkraise, you really aren't in great shape vs 78/99+/Adxd - i mean, you need a running suckout to win vs most of that range, and the rest of it has 11+ outs against you.

yeah, your right about his 3bet range:PokerStrategy.com - Learn the best Online Poker Strategy
Board: 9d5d6s
Equity Win Tie
MP2 31.26% 30.32% 0.94% { 8s8c }
MP3 68.74% 67.80% 0.94% { 88+, 66-55, T8s+, 98s, 87s, AdKd, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, AKo, A9o, K9o, Q9o, J9o, T9o }

we certainly aren't in good shape vs. it . I'm an idiot and forgot to implement the future range of how i would get AI.....

[spoonitnow]

So what's the worst hand you'd check/raise on the flop for value?

[postiga]

i prefer c-c flop and also in turn and after in river i decide my line depending what river brings...

[WeldPhaser]

So what's the worst hand you'd check/raise on the flop for value?

well, i guess that depends if we consider 8's value. I do, even w. his stealing range i don't think there are many 9's beating us OTF

[spoonitnow]

well, i guess that depends if we consider 8's value. I do, even w. his stealing range i don't think there are many 9's beating us OTF

You should probably decide if you're raising for value before you raise in the first place.

[bikes]

i do not understand why you are c/ring the flop. i have no idea wtf u are doing on the flop whatsoever other than clicking buttons.
c/c
l/c are both infinitely better.


turn bet.

[WeldPhaser]

i do not understand why you are c/ring the flop. i have no idea wtf u are doing on the flop whatsoever other than clicking buttons.
c/c
l/c are both infinitely better.


turn bet.

my c/r may appear mindless , and it may be , but this is why i posted the hand, i know i keep learning from posting.

i'm curious why checking is best . so we don't mind giving villain a free card here..

[bikes]

every hand you are worried about giving a 'free card' to will bet.