Flopped a baby flush

[mondayscool]

Villain is 15/10 0 3bet, 6.0 agg factor over 40 hands

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

CO: $4.39 (219.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.02 (251 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
BB: $1.09 (54.5 bb)
UTG+2: $0.95 (47.5 bb)
MP1: $1.92 (96 bb)
MP2: $0.59 (29.5 bb)
MP3: $5 (250 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 4
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, BB folds

Flop: ($0.18) 2 T Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.13, SB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, SB raises to $1.92 and is all-in, Hero ??


Am I almost always outflushed here?

I take AA-QQ out of his range as he seems like the type of player to 3bet those hands preflop, even though I only have 40 hands on him.

My problem when reviewing this hand is deciding how wide a range he would ship here. Does it include TT, 22, or even QT? The rest of his range has to consist of flushes or I guess even a nut flush draw with AK-ATo... right?

[The Bean Counter]

You are almost never outflushed here just because of the odds of that occurring given you have a flush. Most aggressive villains also have a tendency at micro limits to slow play in my experience if they flop a monster rather than c/r.

Villains range is Ace spades (probably with a pair), 22, KJ (maybe with Ks), QT, some flushes. Getting the money in here is just fine and if villain also flopped a flush, forget about it and move on..

[OngBonga]

Problem here is when we're ahead, we not that far ahead, and when we're behind, we're dead. I can't see we're in great shape against his stacking range. Having said that, I'm not sure where I can get away from this. When he c/r us, I'm not flat calling, and I'm not ready to fold yet, so if he shoves over my raise, I'm committed because I'm beating a good chunk of his range.

I'm calling this shove but I'm not happy about it.

[rpm]

if you don't like calling vs his shove on the flop then don't 3bet his C/R

[mondayscool]

if you don't like calling vs his shove on the flop then don't 3bet his C/R

So would you fold it then? If we flat is C/R then don't we have to call down any non-spade turn/river?

[bjsaust]

Your question marks are at the wrong point.

One thing to consider is getting all in on the flop lets them see 2 more cards, whereas if you see the turn (and its a blank) you can get all in then with only one card to come.

[OngBonga]

if you don't like calling vs his shove on the flop then don't 3bet his C/R

But calling the c/r is pretty bad, at least it seems to me that's the case. We hate another spade, we don't like the board pairing... seems better to just fold to the c/r or get it in on flop. I could be making a big mistake though, maybe calling the c/r is fine.

[surviva316]

But calling the c/r is pretty bad, at least it seems to me that's the case. We hate another spade, we don't like the board pairing... seems better to just fold to the c/r or get it in on flop. I could be making a big mistake though, maybe calling the c/r is fine.

The fact that there are so many bad cards to come on the turn is exactly why we want to call and play a turn in position after having seen if our equity has gone way up or way down.

As for the HH: lol he power-raised this friggin board OOP. I would proceed with extreme caution once that happens. Of course I don't think I can ever get away from this hand on a good run-out, but just lol.

[OngBonga]

The fact that there are so many bad cards to come on the turn is exactly why we want to call and play a turn in position after having seen if our equity has gone way up or way down.

This is clearly a weakness of mine, I need to really have a think about this aspect of my game. I'm hating so many turns that I figure I'm best getting it in on flop, clearly this is flawed thinking.

[Hoopy]

Probably fine to get in.

I guess calling and getting all in on any non spade or pair turn could be ok.

[bjsaust]

But calling the c/r is pretty bad, at least it seems to me that's the case. We hate another spade, we don't like the board pairing... seems better to just fold to the c/r or get it in on flop. I could be making a big mistake though, maybe calling the c/r is fine.

If we hate a bunch of cards on the turn, then why not see the turn relatively cheaply rather than put all our money in right now?

I'm not saying which is best (I probably just call the c/r personally but I could be wrong), but if you're going to have a reason you should base it on logic, and the fact that you think you'll need to fold a lot of turns if you're not all in is an illogical reason to get all in on the flop. The only reason to get all in on the flop is because against his range you think thats the most +EV way to play the hand.

[JustinSKS]

Villain is 15/10 0 3bet, 6.0 agg factor over 40 hands

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

CO: $4.39 (219.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.02 (251 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
BB: $1.09 (54.5 bb)
UTG+2: $0.95 (47.5 bb)
MP1: $1.92 (96 bb)
MP2: $0.59 (29.5 bb)
MP3: $5 (250 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 4
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, BB folds

Flop: ($0.18) 2 T Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.13, SB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, SB raises to $1.92 and is all-in, Hero ??


Am I almost always outflushed here?

I take AA-QQ out of his range as he seems like the type of player to 3bet those hands preflop, even though I only have 40 hands on him.

My problem when reviewing this hand is deciding how wide a range he would ship here. Does it include TT, 22, or even QT? The rest of his range has to consist of flushes or I guess even a nut flush draw with AK-ATo... right?

Hero has to snap call because SPR and being pot comitted; whats your 40 hand table image in his eyes? Does he think you're capable of calling with less than a flush? I think he could easily have TT/QT and some NFD's with some already higher flushes; but after so much of stacks being put in I guess I never find a fold. I don't think he has to have you outflushed everytime he takes this line as he might think you're FOS and in his mind value shoving his two pair QT or his set. Than again he can't think he has much fold equity with a shove so like worst hand I expect to see is a NFD. Hero calls. I read this without reading replies; because I'm trying to work on my game. SO FTR TEAR ME APART!!!!

[surviva316]

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JUSTINSKS IS IN THE MF'IN HOUSE!

Oh, and I thought I'd just repeat this:

lol he power-raised this friggin board OOP. I would proceed with extreme caution once that happens. Of course I don't think I can ever get away from this hand on a good run-out, but just lol.

[JustinSKS]

JUSTINSKS IS IN THE MF'IN HOUSE!

Oh, and I thought I'd just repeat this:

Bro I totally saw a guy who looks like you at the casino I frequent; kinda unsure of where to play online now...But I was staring him down and then I finally just said, Are you from Philly? Haha wasn't you.

Ayo tho man; I didn't realize that it was a c/r, but yup I agree can't find a fold on basically the best you can hope for with your 54s. You got the flop you basically wanted. His power move is like WOAH what does HE have? But yeah I can't see a fold. I'm also not good enough. I can fold a small flush with 4x of a suit and these live donks who won't bet without it.