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    Default KK my best IP vs nit

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    Stacks:
    UTG ($22.39)
    UTG+1 ($2.15)
    MP1 ($6.46)
    MP2 ($5.74)
    kicKAss (MP3) ($5.16)
    CO ($3.79)
    BTN ($5.19)
    SB ($5.02)
    BB ($4.47)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) kicKAss is MP3
    4 folds, kicKAss raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BB calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.32, 2 players)
    BB bets $0.20, kicKAss calls $0.20

    Turn: ($0.72, 2 players)
    BB checks, kicKAss checks

    River: ($0.72, 2 players)
    BB bets $0.35, $0.35 to kicKAss ($4.81)?


    villain is 7/5 over 40, very aggro but super tight so of course he's betting he has a hand. I didnt have a clue what to do. still dont.
    should I be raise folding this donk bet.
    obviously snapped off this river bet like he ever v bets AT here
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    He just wins, mmkay?
    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    Agreed.

    On the flop hes likely donking a set or like 77/99 which on the turn he binks the set or.the.straight.

    Hes got a set here.
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    what about flop
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    He just wins, mmkay?
    Calling flop is ok, since he is probably donking 77/99 fairly often, 99 especially. I'd fold to any more aggression though and I would probably just check it down. Maybe gaybet the river.
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    What do you put him on the flop?
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    66-TT is what I put him on the flop. JJ also very possible.
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    I think you played it fine. I'm not looking to screw around with these single digit VPIP guys too often. I think you are good here a fair bit given the description of him but I don't think a raise at any point is going to accomplish much.
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    Oh new opinion. I thought 66+ beat by all of it but he showed up with A7s. I think he sometimes has TP on the flop, but i really doubt he bets it on this river.
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    So against that range reraise is -EV? So keeping in mind small hands means small pot, the call is the better option. He could betting 77/99/JJ on the flop, hands you beat, the turn check is good, keeping the pot small. On the river you're beat, JJ now have made a straight, fold. Nice played.
    Last edited by Stripclubjunkie; 11-09-2011 at 09:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kickass View Post
    Oh new opinion. I thought 66+ beat by all of it but he showed up with A7s. I think he sometimes has TP on the flop, but i really doubt he bets it on this river.
    That doesn't sound so nitty? Post his nick, so we can search for him and get some more info.
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    only a 40 sample prolly not as nitty as he first seemed
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    CGSERRANO thats his name
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    Thats why i sometimes check my opponents stats, when i have a small sample and make a note if it's much different as to my PT stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kickass View Post
    CGSERRANO thats his name
    Vpip 22 Pfr 11
    AF 2 Afq 51
    CC 13 3bet 3,5
    Cbet 75

    -0.19 BB/100 over 35k hands

    Edit: His BB Vpip 23%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripclubjunkie View Post
    So against that range reraise is -EV? So keeping in mind small hands means small pot, the call is the better option. He could betting 77/99/JJ on the flop, hands you beat, the turn check is good, keeping the pot small. On the river you're beat, JJ now have made a straight, fold. Nice played.
    I never refuted any of this?

    I said I would fold the river so I don't know why you're quoting me and putting this up...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roid_Rage View Post
    I never refuted any of this?

    I said I would fold the river so I don't know why you're quoting me and putting this up...?
    I meant to write if we should reraise the flop, but figured out it was wrong, so just forgot to unquote you.
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    turn seems like a pretty easy bet/fold

    he's typically betting hands that beat you here and a lot of check/call hands will have pretty decent equity so let's protect our hand. If he check/calls and then checks a blank river we can debate value betting.
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    am I the only one thinking of raising the flop? We have to discount monsters that'd often c/r, and if our image is even a little bad, he could get stubborn with a pair, and we get more value from JJ/QQ that could easily shutdown on a lot of turns.

    I mean just cuz he's been a preflop nit over a tiny sample doesn't mean he's gunna be a massive postflop nit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    am I the only one thinking of raising the flop? We have to discount monsters that'd often c/r, and if our image is even a little bad, he could get stubborn with a pair, and we get more value from JJ/QQ that could easily shutdown on a lot of turns.

    I mean just cuz he's been a preflop nit over a tiny sample doesn't mean he's gunna be a massive postflop nit.
    I'd r/f this flop I think. As played, bikes nailed it, fold and not even close.
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    I mean I think it's close, raisingbig/shoving has its merits too

    we're getting 3:1 on a call, have to be good 25% of the time to break even and we get to see his hand, oooooooooo it's so fun to see what they actually have. It's definitely close, I'd disagree with someone saying it's not close. Had he insta-potted it, then yea it's not close.

    I will say calling in my mind is the worst of the 3 options, if I were to proceed I'd raise a large percentage of the time, sigh and fold next, and call last. I'd have bet the turn though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73 View Post
    I'd have bet the turn though.
    This for sure, as played on flop anyway. I doubt I'd bet the turn if he called a raise on the flop though. I agree that calling river to see his hand has merit, but only if we think we're gonna be playing against this guy in the future. I don't think we're good come river anywhere near enough to call profitably, so if we're calling we need to use our note profitably. We're only beating a bluff on the river, I can't see him value betting worse here, so is he bluffing >25% of the time? I can't see it myself.
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