fold to 3 bet?

[fulksy]

no reads only 8 hands

is this a STD fold without reads

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($25.10)
BB ($52.58)
UTG ($25.19)
UTG+1 ($63.07)
CO ($51.78)
Hero ($25.40)

Dealt to Hero Q A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, BB raises to $3, hero?

[rpm]

you could perhaps call so long as it's not with a plan of raising/felting on any flop on which you make top pair. i'd probably just fold though yeah.

[scott_owen]

if you call and miss, he leads into what do you do?
if you call and hit a Q, he leads into you what do you do?
if you call and hit an A, he leads into you what do you do?

i fold. feels too much like two pair or better is needed post flop to continue. and even then.. KK folds, as does JJ, QQ/AA has us owned.. value from AK, but i dont want to call 3 bets hoping to hit two pair when dominated like that.

[rpm]

obviously we arent folding TPTK or TP2ndK to one barrel (that answers situation 2 and 3). and i don't think floating air is a good idea versus what we can only assume is a relatively strong range (so #1 = fold)

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i'm pretty sure i'm calling here almost 100 procent, you have a top 3% hand here and position and in a spot where people 3b pretty wide

[fulksy]

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($25.10)
BB ($52.58)
UTG ($25.19)
UTG+1 ($63.07)
CO ($51.78)
Hero ($25.40)

Dealt to Hero Q A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2.25

FLOP ($6.10) T J T

BB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($6.10) T J T 7

BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

RIVER ($14.10) T J T 7 4

BB checks, [color=red]Hero bets $9.25,

[bikes]

i think this is fine. you'd rep more if you bet the flop but villain probably isnt that much of a handreader

[fulksy]

not sure if i would bet a 10, JJ, or FD on flop. at time i was thinking i had decent equity vs his range and didn't want to get raised off my hand.

[Moradis]

not sure if i would bet a 10, JJ, or FD on flop. at time i was thinking i had decent equity vs his range and didn't want to get raised off my hand.

Out of interest, were you trying to rep the flush on the river with your bet? I should think any hand that raised you PF would probably call which would be nearly most PP + AK given you've not shown any strength in the previous streets. His Ax raising would be pretty loose if it was only AJ which is all you beat. Just want to understand that play a bit better. Cheers

[Donachello]

not sure if i would bet a 10, JJ, or FD on flop. at time i was thinking i had decent equity vs his range and didn't want to get raised off my hand.

I would be betting a T here 100% considering that you really shouldn't have many Ts in your range. As bikes said i think it's also played pretty well though I think I'd be betting a FD nearly always as well given that we have both position and the initiative. Additionally stacks are such that if he were to c/jam this flop it'd be a really easy fold with a FD.

Also in general when people are 3betting a lot of Axs or suited connector type hands (which make up almost 100% of people 3bet bluffing range as these stakes) you're going to be golden by holding both a NFD potential hand as well as a dominating Ax.

[The Edlets]

Always call here in position probably fold out of position no reads. Check river back. Looks like a potential trap but meh. He might have a medium pocket pair but we dont know if he is capable of folding them. Just check and see what he 3 bet you with and checked the flop with

[fulksy]

Always call here in position probably fold out of position no reads. Check river back. Looks like a potential trap but meh. He might have a medium pocket pair but we dont know if he is capable of folding them. Just check and see what he 3 bet you with and checked the flop with

if i plan on just calling when he checks to me on this type of river then there's no way i should float the turn, kinda a pro of why calling a 3bet in position isn't to bad

[scott_owen]

obviously we arent folding TPTK or TP2ndK to one barrel (that answers situation 2 and 3). and i don't think floating air is a good idea versus what we can only assume is a relatively strong range (so #1 = fold)

this is fair.. and it makes a strong argument for folding pre. This is because when we do make TPTK we only get 1 street of cbet value vs hands that are behind us before they give up. Or we lose to hands that are way ahead of us.

Which means preflop we are often calling when behind and with limited implied odds. would you agree?

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stop putting everyone on the nuts everytime they 3b