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  1. #1

    Default villain's perspective

    ok i get it i'm a noob. but i want to learn stuff. this hand is very unintresting from my perspective, flop gin build pot , win monies.
    However i would like to get some comments on how you would have played the hand when flop comes like if u were in villain's shoes.
    Basically because i wonder what I would have done in that spot if i was villain.
    thnx

    ps: MP limper was mega limp call station pre

    my stats 22/18
    3bet 5%

    villain stats 18/14/
    3bet 3%

    for some reason i didn't manage to show villain's hand he had AcJc
    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($1.81)
    BB ($4.98)
    UTG ($2.32)
    MP ($0.62)
    CO ($2)
    Hero (Button) ($2.16)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 6
    1 fold, MP calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB bets $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.28) A, A, 6 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.14, BB calls $0.14

    Turn: ($0.56) 10 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.36, BB calls $0.36

    River: ($1.28) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $1.02, Hero raises $1.54 (All-In), BB calls $0.52

    Total pot: $4.36

    Results:
    Hero had 6, 6 (full house, sixes over Aces).
    BB didn't show
    Outcome: Hero won $4.07
    Last edited by TheLongGrind; 11-01-2010 at 05:18 PM.
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    Please raise pre.
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    Basically what you said. Big hand, big monies. He should have bet out of course and then done a few things based on how you reacted/your frequencies/etc.
  4. #4
    bet flop, bet turn, ship river. the hand pretty much plays itself. Probably c/c turn if you had tighter stats.

    your range on the flop is like A2s-A9s, A7o-AJo, 22-88, KJo-KQo, KJs-KQs
    Last edited by tyrn; 11-01-2010 at 05:50 PM.
  5. #5
    Yeah your limp pre sucks. Early pos I can forgive it if we think table is passive, but not button. You have one limper, I would raise to 8c. I can't imagine BB is folding AJs, so we don't lose our lovely pot.

    If I was villain, I'm raising my BB more when it comes round. I go to 14c and I assume you call. Your stats of 22/18 tells me you like to raise when you eneter a pot, so why have you limped? When you call my raise to 14c, I've got you on a range of 22-66. Thanks to your limp/call, there's a remote chance I can get away from this, especially if you raise when I lead out the flop at 18c. In fact, even if you call, I'm worried now. Am I really good enough to fold this? Of course not, I'm stuck with you at 2nl, but I probably say "Please not 66" as I shove the turn, knowing full well it's 66.

    Funny thing is, if you raise pre flop, your range is so much wider than if you limp/call. You're on the button and you're raising nearly one in five hands. It could be anything if you raise, so when I flop trip aces, I'm way ahead of your range and delighted to get my monies in. But since you limp/called, I'd be really edgy about putting money in after my flop bet, in fact there's a remote possibility I could come to the conclusion I'm behind your range and make a sicker fold than I've ever made to date. But I could only ever fold this by leading out on the flop first, otherwise there's too many bluffs in your range.

    I think a better player than me, or indeed this villain, could get away from this, but only because you left the door open for them to. If you raise this pre, then I can't see anybody getting away from it with barely over 100bb.
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  6. #6
    yeah i'm kindda suprised i limp called pre as well usually i open any pair on btn but i was trying to let MP see the flop as well since he was so spastic, basically i was giving up on , isolating the limper , and taking it down with a cbet / which would longterm prolly be more ev+ then just setmining like it was FR. then again with an active BB isolating a ton when the fish in MP limps and with me on btn i figured it could become a juicy pot if MP limp called like he usually did ( unfortunately he folded) . that was my plan of attack( prolly not the right word for a setmining arse like me) , basically i'm getting great odds to bink a set and BB was pretty aggro valuebetting thinly 3 streets more than once, i figured this was a good chance to bust his chops basically
    Last edited by TheLongGrind; 11-01-2010 at 09:15 PM.

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