Best strat for super fishy home game.

[nonofyobiz]

so ya game should be REAL call stationy, guy way over valueing their hands etc, alot of limping then calling a raise. Prob if I make a raise in pos i'd get 4 or 5 in the pot =S

So should i just nut camp? I'm thinking just ABC poker would be the best route, i know these guys like to gamble though.

[baudib]

This is the most common situation imaginable...It's like beating microstakes online or tourists at a casino.

some basics can't be emphasized enough:

1. Position, position, position. Just because everyone else is playing 97s UTG doesn't mean you do.

Punish people in position...Steal with playable hands that flop well against people who are going to play basic fit-or-fold.


2. Small hand = small pot. Big hand = big pot. This is pretty obvious, but can be murky at times. But a big overpair on the button after 5 people limp-called in front on a 765 two-flush flop is NOT a big hand.

On the other hand, AK on a A72 rainbow flop is a big hand. While that's a classic situation where I like to check behind, when everyone is playing A-anything you can probably go for 3 streets of value.

If you flop the nuts, don't slowplay.

3. I think looking for tells is the most overrated thing about live poker. If you can get one tell per session that leads you to a good call or good laydown, you're doing well. However, the one really obvious tell that most people can't avoid is when they have absolutely no interest in a hand and/or that river card didn't get them there, and they're ready to muck before you even reach for chips. In general, DON'T BLUFF, but when someone is ready to instafold, make it easier for them.

[jyms]

Don't be afraid to see some flops cheap in position since they will pay you off cheaply and it will look like your not nitting it up. Everything else should be standard for sure, slow playing call stations is a no no for sure. Make hands get paid, and it's ok to fold to what may be a bluff once in a while, forget about marginal situations and the big hands will make up for it. If they think your just getting lucky because you always have it then they will invite you to play again.

[oskar]

Don't set yourself strategies.
Just do whatever you think is most profitable in any given situation.

Sounds obvious... but stuff like "I'm not going to c/r bluff the rich old guy" or "I'm not going to chase with bottom pair on a 2 flush board", or "I'm not going to call a 2x pot shove on the turn with 67 on K72 3" - sounds reasonable but is all going to hurt your game.

The more specific, the worse a gameplan usually is.

I did all of the above in yesterdays session alone.

I just now read baudib's and jyms posts... yeah... but that is just general... like... you know... that's how you play poker lohlz
Value bet, think in ranges, and fold when you can't call profitably... or raise... or call and bluff the next street.

[nonofyobiz]

This is the most common situation imaginable...It's like beating microstakes online or tourists at a casino.

some basics can't be emphasized enough:

1. Position, position, position. Just because everyone else is playing 97s UTG doesn't mean you do.

Punish people in position...Steal with playable hands that flop well against people who are going to play basic fit-or-fold.


2. Small hand = small pot. Big hand = big pot. This is pretty obvious, but can be murky at times. But a big overpair on the button after 5 people limp-called in front on a 765 two-flush flop is NOT a big hand.

On the other hand, AK on a A72 rainbow flop is a big hand. While that's a classic situation where I like to check behind, when everyone is playing A-anything you can probably go for 3 streets of value.

If you flop the nuts, don't slowplay.

3. I think looking for tells is the most overrated thing about live poker. If you can get one tell per session that leads you to a good call or good laydown, you're doing well. However, the one really obvious tell that most people can't avoid is when they have absolutely no interest in a hand and/or that river card didn't get them there, and they're ready to muck before you even reach for chips. In general, DON'T BLUFF, but when someone is ready to instafold, make it easier for them.

Thanks for this, All things I know and have been practicing in the micros, but it's good to read some stuff to reaffirm. I really wanna just play solid poker. I wanna avoid situations where I punish the limpers in pos with good hands like u said ...and end up getting 4 callers lol ...ugh tooo many big multiway pots.

[baudib]

you still value raise your hands, don't let the limpfest make you passive. Don't overlimp with a big hand! but when you raise up AK on the button and get 4 callers, don't waste too many chips when you whiff.

If they're not respecting your 3x or 4x raises, raise 8x or 10x.

[nonofyobiz]

kk