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  1. #1

    Default three hands 25NL FR

    Hand #1
    Villain has a half stack and is a 59/21. Can I call this shove most of the time?


    $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG DanyComo85 ($12.40)
    UTG+1 HenryV ($76.40)
    MP1 Gory Blood ($5.25)
    MP2 DirdyBou ($5.00)
    CO Grime123 ($25.00)
    BTN Hero ($25.00)
    SB djingo2006 ($34.15)
    BB migoud ($29.85)

    Pre-flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BTN
    DanyComo85 raises to $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, 2 folds, DanyComo85 calls $1.10

    Flop: ($3.55, 2 players)
    DanyComo85 goes all-in $10.80, $10.80 to Hero ($23.40)?

    --
    Hand #2
    Villain is a 39/39 and I decided to 3bet and he/she calls. Is it ok for me to donk the flop with two AA on board? Can I call his turn bet or can I shove on his turn bet or should I go back and never bet that flop?


    $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG Gory Blood ($5.00)
    UTG+1 griffey423 ($35.35)
    MP1 Macros909 ($6.60)
    MP2 Mr. Fred ($15.30)
    MP3 KaMiKaZeEeE ($15.00)
    CO crisb732002 ($9.15)
    BTN $DIMON$_280 ($30.10)
    SB Nogardv ($5.70)
    BB Hero ($26.85)

    Pre-flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is BB
    1 fold, griffey423 raises to $1, 6 folds, Hero raises to $3.10, griffey423 calls $2.10

    Flop: ($6.30, 2 players)
    Hero bets $4, griffey423 calls $4

    Turn: ($14.30, 2 players)
    Hero checks, griffey423 bets $10, $10 to Hero ($19.75)?

    --
    Hand #3
    Villain is 22/11. I bet preflop and cbet flop with AA. I check turn to control the pot and villain's often fire at me here so is it ok to call his turn bet? Is it a mistake not to fire $5-$9 at the river? Is it ok to call his $7 river bet? I felt I was ahead and again, often villains will fire river...perhaps with a hand like AQ?


    $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG chakalasz ($32.05)
    UTG+1 357RUGER357 ($3.45)
    MP1 Hero ($25.00)
    MP2 troyer16 ($29.15)
    MP3 acplayer13 ($47.30)
    CO Greenflagbus ($5.00)
    BTN Bergeld ($15.60)
    SB boro005 ($15.20)
    BB bayindir ($10.00)
    [Greenflagbus posted $0.25]

    Pre-flop: ($0.60, 9 players) Hero is MP1
    2 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, troyer16 calls $1.10, 5 folds

    Flop: ($2.80, 2 players)
    Hero bets $1.80, troyer16 calls $1.80

    Turn: ($6.40, 2 players)
    Hero checks, troyer16 bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

    River: ($11.40, 2 players)
    Hero checks, troyer16 bets $7, $7 to Hero ($19.60)?

    thanks for your time
  2. #2
    hand 1: snap call

    hand 2: whats villains af? ag freq? Over how many hands? without reads betting the flop then check folding the turn is ok I guess. If he also checks the turn bet river for value.


    hand 3: Don't check turn, bet $4.60, as played call river.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
    whats villains af? ag freq? Over how many hands? without reads betting the flop then check folding the turn is ok I guess.
    He was AF 0.67 and AFq 40 over a very small sample (22 hands)
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    H1: ive seen villians play like this with JT+, TT+, ATcc+.. i call but am not happy about it.

    H2: 2 aces obviously makes it less likely that villian has one so i dont mind betting the flop here but if villian calls then is willing to bet 2/3 pot on the turn im letting it go...

    H3: the turn makes the board quite wet. Hits villians range and letting him see the river for that price is a mistake. There are plenty of ugly cards on the river we dont want to see. I problably make it 7+. you will get called by a lot of worse hands here IMO.
  5. #5
    meh, check folding the turn in hand 2 feels dirty but do it anyway.
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  6. #6

    Default Re: three hands 25NL FR

    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyPirate
    Hand #1
    Villain has a half stack and is a 59/21. Can I call this shove most of the time?


    $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    8 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG DanyComo85 ($12.40)
    UTG+1 HenryV ($76.40)
    MP1 Gory Blood ($5.25)
    MP2 DirdyBou ($5.00)
    CO Grime123 ($25.00)
    BTN Hero ($25.00)
    SB djingo2006 ($34.15)
    BB migoud ($29.85)

    Pre-flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BTN
    DanyComo85 raises to $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, 2 folds, DanyComo85 calls $1.10

    Flop: ($3.55, 2 players)
    DanyComo85 goes all-in $10.80, $10.80 to Hero ($23.40)?

    --
    Hand #2
    Villain is a 39/39 and I decided to 3bet and he/she calls. Is it ok for me to donk the flop with two AA on board? Can I call his turn bet or can I shove on his turn bet or should I go back and never bet that flop?


    $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG Gory Blood ($5.00)
    UTG+1 griffey423 ($35.35)
    MP1 Macros909 ($6.60)
    MP2 Mr. Fred ($15.30)
    MP3 KaMiKaZeEeE ($15.00)
    CO crisb732002 ($9.15)
    BTN $DIMON$_280 ($30.10)
    SB Nogardv ($5.70)
    BB Hero ($26.85)

    Pre-flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is BB
    1 fold, griffey423 raises to $1, 6 folds, Hero raises to $3.10, griffey423 calls $2.10

    Flop: ($6.30, 2 players)
    Hero bets $4, griffey423 calls $4

    Turn: ($14.30, 2 players)
    Hero checks, griffey423 bets $10, $10 to Hero ($19.75)?

    --
    Hand #3
    Villain is 22/11. I bet preflop and cbet flop with AA. I check turn to control the pot and villain's often fire at me here so is it ok to call his turn bet? Is it a mistake not to fire $5-$9 at the river? Is it ok to call his $7 river bet? I felt I was ahead and again, often villains will fire river...perhaps with a hand like AQ?


    $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG chakalasz ($32.05)
    UTG+1 357RUGER357 ($3.45)
    MP1 Hero ($25.00)
    MP2 troyer16 ($29.15)
    MP3 acplayer13 ($47.30)
    CO Greenflagbus ($5.00)
    BTN Bergeld ($15.60)
    SB boro005 ($15.20)
    BB bayindir ($10.00)
    [Greenflagbus posted $0.25]

    Pre-flop: ($0.60, 9 players) Hero is MP1
    2 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, troyer16 calls $1.10, 5 folds

    Flop: ($2.80, 2 players)
    Hero bets $1.80, troyer16 calls $1.80

    Turn: ($6.40, 2 players)
    Hero checks, troyer16 bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

    River: ($11.40, 2 players)
    Hero checks, troyer16 bets $7, $7 to Hero ($19.60)?

    thanks for your time
    Hand 1: I like your play here. The 3-bet to isolate the super ag idiot is standard. I snap call his shove and expect to be ahead a lot more than 50% of the time. 99, 1010, KJ, Aj, air make up his range here. He ships QQ+ preflop. If he has a set its just bad luck, move on.

    Hand 2: Thats a shit flop for his range. I play pot control and try to get to a cheap showdown. If he has 1010-QQ he will do the same hopefully and then you can induce a bluff on the river, assuming he doesn't fire 2-3 streets. I would call a flop bet and then probably donk/fold the turn. Donking the flop just isn't consistent with having an Ace in this spot imo.

    Hand 3: I go for 3 streets of value most of the time here on that board. I hate giving free cards on the turn.. if he has AA beat you will find out by betting. Tons of draws and weaker hands than AA are in his range here and will call the turn. If you want to induce a bluff on the river by checking, that's fine.. but bet-bet-bet is my typical line.
  7. #7
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    hand 1, read about SPR
    this is super standard snapcall
    you should be calling with any jack because people seriously will shove two overcards since they figure they have fold equity

    are you threebetting AJ here as a bluff, though? I think you're behind his OPENING range, much less his 3b call range

    in hand 2 stats don't really mean anything since it's over 22 hands
    also you're not donking the flop, you're cbetting since you're the pf aggressor

    my standard bet sizing on that flop is small, less than half pot for two reasons:
    3b pot so I can get all in by the river even if I bet the flop small
    well I don't want to blow him out of the pot if he has JJ or something

    and if I do that, and valuebet small on these dry boards my bluffs can be very cheap in the same situation

    when he bets the turn he doesn't have a big pocket pair that often because he'd try to get to showdown and check it back

    so he's either completely full of it or has you crushed

    hand 3: you can't check for pot control OOP rofl
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by texa8
    H2: 2 aces obviously makes it less likely that villian has one so i dont mind betting the flop here but if villian calls then is willing to bet 2/3 pot on the turn im letting it go...
    The problem is two aces doesn't make it more likely you'll get called by worse than what he has. We're not betting because we think he doesn't have the ace, we should be betting because we're getting value from a hand we beat - in this case I can't see anything less that calls us, especially considering he raised in EP and you 3bet him.
  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
    hand 1: snap call

    hand 2: whats villains af? ag freq? Over how many hands? without reads betting the flop then check folding the turn is ok I guess. If he also checks the turn bet river for value.


    hand 3: Don't check turn, bet $4.60, as played call river.
    This. I bet flop in hand 2 smaller like ridiculously small to keep his range wider.

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