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  1. #1

    Default Is this considered spewing?

    I'm not even sure why I'm calling here. Based on PF action, I am most likely behind and it's multiway. Only reason I call is because the bet size is so small. But I only have 2 outs to improve even if the implied odds are high. If this hand played out infinity times, would I profit here?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($10.35)
    Button ($7.90)
    Hero (SB) ($10.35)
    BB ($2)
    UTG ($5.70)
    MP1 ($4.80)
    MP2 ($7.65)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 10
    2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $0.90, Button calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

    Flop: ($2.80) 7, 3, J (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.10, Button calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

    Turn: ($3.10) 2 (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

    River: ($4) K (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $6.35 (All-In), Button calls $6.35, Hero folds

    Total pot: $16.70 | Rake: $0.80
  2. #2
    The post flop action is so weak there's no way ever that you can fold the flop. I'm not advocating putting people on exact hands, but this looks so much like 2 AKs.

    I don't actually mind the way you played this hand. Do you have any reads on what his pathetic leads might mean?

    It's tempting to raise this flop with air just because the lead looks so weak and MPs call even weaker. If I had 2 overs here I think I'd raise this flop a lot. With sd value I don't mind the flop and turn calls since you must be ahead here loads. On the flop you can ignore the 10c bet and either treat it as an easy check behind (call) or a bet to protect what is likely the best hand (raise). I'd go with the latter unless you have reason to believe villain might do this with a strong hand. People do some fucked up shit at the micros.
  3. #3
    Well if I'm not mistaken the pot on the flop is $2.85. He makes a ridiculously small/weak bet of $0.10 on the flop and the other player calls, so our pot odds are 29.5 to 1. Assuming we have 2 outs to win the post almost every time, then we need to get at least 22.5 to 1 to draw to just a turn card. So at the very least we're calling this bet since we're getting correct pot odds not even taking into account implied odds. I'd probably never fold any hand in this spot.

    These two bets look so weak though, that depending on what types of players they are I'd think about making a raise to around $1.50 with TT. As played, I think the turn is a fold.
  4. #4
    make a pot-sized bet on flop and tell the min-betting donks behind you to take a hike. If you get played back at say, "nh sir" and move on.
  5. #5
    If your putting money in the middle and don't know what for your spewing. Even when your spewing you can accedently make profitable plays.

    you had odds to chase.
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    Just calling tells you nothing about what either of them have. Make a 2/3 pot size raise and get some information from them. Most likely they fold and you're out of the tough spot.
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    No idea why hero checks flop.. none.
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690
    Just calling tells you nothing about what either of them have. Make a 2/3 pot size raise and get some information from them. Most likely they fold and you're out of the tough spot.
    lol, im not the best poker player on this site by a long shot, but i can tell you that raising for information is not a play that should be in your poker rep.

    Do you want them to fold because you think they are beating you and you're bluffing or because you think they will call with worse?--Because otherwise raising makes no sense. But also, what in these guy's ranges that is beating you will fold to a raise...my best guess is nothing. If these guys have over cards then you want to bet and have them call drawing to few outs. If they raise your bet on the flop, then probably you are beat based on the pre flop action and you can fold. I'm not sure I would even call pre flop though
  9. #9
    I don't believe raising at any point post flop is a good idea and would recommend folding if not for pot odds/implied odss. It would be cool to hear an argument for why some of you think a raise or bet post flop would be good please give range though.

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