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Ok, let's see if we can come up with a range given no reads or stats.
The interesting thing here for me is the flop. 1) He check-raised the flop and 2) you bet it small suggesting what exactly?
Of course we don't know what the villain thinks of you, but if you are a habitual cbetter he may have checked to you with a better hand expecting you to bet so he could raise. Alternately he could have a hand that he's happy to pot control, reads your bet as weak and tries to push you off the hand by turning his made hand into a bluff.
I think the main question here is - what does your cbet make him think about you? Maybe you have a drawing hand and you're trying to juice the pot so it's easier to get all-in if you hit your draw? This would put you on a weak unmade hand and the turn bet should deny you drawing odds. He could actually make this play as a pure bluff with anything that missed the flop, but he's more likely to do it as a semi-bluff on any hand with outs. Like Ac8c - gutshot and back door FD on the flop turning into gutshot and FD on the turn. That's consistent imo.
He is less likely to play this way with overpairs. First of all I'd assume a lot of 3betting with QQ+ an maybe even JJ. If JJ did flat neither his check or his min-raise make a lot of sense (though the turn bet does).
The 7c on the turn is a card that seems like a blank for your range. If you have a draw it doesn't complete the draw, if you're playing overs you didn't hit a pair (or a second pair), if you had a 76 hand you'd probably also bet bigger on the flop. So the big turn bet indicates either that he thinks he was ahead on the flop and is still ahead on the turn (ala JJ, 97s played cautiously intending to fold to any dangerous cards), that he thinks he was behind on the flop, but has now improved and thinks he's ahead (ala 76), that he thinks you are weak, didn't improve and are looking for an excuse to fold (any two), or that he picked up more outs to win (ala Ac8c)
Experimentally I'd put his range on: Ac8c (1), Ac6c (1), 86s (4), 97s (2), 98s (3), 87s (2), 76s(2), 6h5h(1), JJ(6), 99(3), 77(1), 55(3), Ah8h(1), Ah6h(1), Ah5h(1)
My problem with this range is that there isn't much in it that I'd call in the SB with - but as said we don't know anything abot this villain and his tendencies. And the range probably also needs some more heart flush draws ala QhJh etc.
None of these hands are completely reliably linked to the flop action, but they look pretty good with the turn action, and generally the bigger bets are stronger indicators of hand strength. Of the hands in that range that you're ahead they have outs to beat you, and of the ones you're behind you're very much behind - this combined with the relatively large number of hands you're behind suggests a fold. That said, it's a narrow range and I still think any thinking opponent is likely to do this on a bluff. You seem like an autopiloting player who didn't like the flop but who bet it because he always cbets but didn't like it and who is waiting to be pushed off his hand.
I think the correct move here is probably to make a variance reducing fold and remind yourself to bet wet flops bigger. I'm tempted to extend that to say think more about acquiring reads, taking notes, putting opponents on hand ranges, playing fewer tables etc, but I think that's me I'm talking about then and not necessarily you.
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is this an all in or fold hand?..
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Originally Posted by RoyalProdigy
