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    Default another tourny , running bad and playing bad bad combo

    i've been running bad, and when i'm running bad i start playing bad, i'm not getting hands so i need to be picking up some blinds and i'm missing tons of spots so any help would be appretiated, especially when i folded kq is that a shove

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    ---Tournament Summary---
    $5.50 SNG: Finished 6/9 for $0
    Data for 54 hands.
    You played 9 hands (16.67%)
    You raised 5 times preflop (9.26%)


    -----Hand 1-----
    Hero's M = 33.33
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9839463155: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:52:05 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,500)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (1,500)
    Seat 3: Slateslide (1,500)
    Seat 4: redpenny (1,500)
    Seat 5: maria300 (1,500)
    Seat 6: ericausen (1,500)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (1,500)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (1,500)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (1,500)
    fulksy posts the small blind of 15
    s2kblue posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #9
    Preflop: fulksy dealt 5 8
    Slateslide folds
    redpenny folds
    maria300 folds
    ericausen folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 folds
    fulksy calls 15
    s2kblue checks
    Flop: J T 2
    fulksy bets 60

    s2kblue raises to 120

    fulksy folds
    Uncalled bet of 60 returned to s2kblue
    s2kblue mucks
    s2kblue wins the pot (180)


    5 K BU (M = 31.33; f+f+f+c+f+f+F)
    K 8 CO (M = 31.33; c+f+f+c+f+F)
    2 8 CO-1 (M = 31.33; f+c+c+f+F)
    9 3 MP2 (M = 31.33; f+c+f+F)
    8 A MP1 (M = 31.33; f+f+F)
    8 A UTG+1 (M = 31.33; f+F)
    3 6 UTG (M = 23.50; F)
    8 6 BB (M = 23.50; f+c+c+f+c+r+f+F)
    K 4 SB (M = 22.83; f+c+f+f+f+f+F)
    5 J BU (M = 22.50; f+f+f+f+r+F)
    9 7 CO (M = 22.50; f+f+f+f+F)
    5 K MP2 (M = 22.50; f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 2-----
    Hero's M = 18.00
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9839655382: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:04:18 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,350)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (3,045)
    Seat 3: Slateslide (900)
    Seat 5: maria300 (1,360)
    Seat 6: ericausen (1,415)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (1,505)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (2,425)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (1,500)
    ericausen posts the small blind of 25
    riesendusel posts the big blind of 50
    The button is in seat #5
    Preflop: fulksy dealt 7 7
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 folds
    fulksy raises to 150

    s2kblue folds
    Slateslide folds
    maria300 folds
    ericausen folds
    riesendusel folds
    Uncalled bet of 100 returned to fulksy
    fulksy mucks
    fulksy wins the pot (125)


    6 4 UTG+1 (M = 19.00; f+F)
    6 6 UTG (M = 19.00; F)

    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 19.00
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9839722271: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:08:30 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,425)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (3,045)
    Seat 3: Slateslide (850)
    Seat 5: maria300 (1,410)
    Seat 6: ericausen (1,390)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (1,605)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (2,325)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (1,450)
    royalflush369 posts the small blind of 25
    fulksy posts the big blind of 50
    The button is in seat #8
    Preflop: fulksy dealt 2 2
    s2kblue folds
    Slateslide folds
    maria300 folds
    kcfan04 has been disconnected
    ericausen folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 folds
    kcfan04 has reconnected
    royalflush369 calls 25
    kcfan04 has been disconnected
    fulksy checks
    Flop: A 9 9
    royalflush369 bets 50

    fulksy raises to 150

    kcfan04 has reconnected
    royalflush369 folds
    Uncalled bet of 100 returned to fulksy
    fulksy mucks
    fulksy wins the pot (200)


    K 6 SB (M = 20.33; f+c+f+f+c+f+F)
    4 3 BU (M = 16.67; f+f+f+f+r+F)
    T 7 CO (M = 16.67; f+f+f+f+F)
    Q 2 MP2 (M = 16.67; f+f+f+F)
    8 3 MP1 (M = 16.67; c+f+F)
    7 Q UTG+1 (M = 16.67; f+F)
    7 K UTG (M = 16.67; F)
    7 5 BB (M = 12.50; f+f+c+f+f+r+f+F)

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 11.83
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9839868237: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:17:50 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,420)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (2,855)
    Seat 3: Slateslide (670)
    Seat 5: maria300 (1,725)
    Seat 6: ericausen (1,270)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (1,725)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (2,575)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (1,260)
    fulksy posts the small blind of 40
    s2kblue posts the big blind of 80
    The button is in seat #9
    Preflop: fulksy dealt T T
    Slateslide folds
    maria300 calls 80
    ericausen folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 calls 80
    royalflush369 raises to 200

    fulksy raises to 1,420, and is all in

    s2kblue folds
    maria300 folds
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 folds
    Uncalled bet of 1,220 returned to fulksy
    fulksy mucks
    fulksy wins the pot (640)


    2 J BU (M = 15.50; c+f+c+c+r+F)
    5 K CO (M = 15.50; f+f+f+f+F)
    8 K MP2 (M = 15.50; f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 5-----
    Hero's M = 15.50
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9839916572: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:20:57 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,860)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (2,735)
    Seat 3: Slateslide (550)
    Seat 5: maria300 (1,485)
    Seat 6: ericausen (1,310)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (2,325)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (2,335)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (900)
    ericausen posts the small blind of 40
    riesendusel posts the big blind of 80
    The button is in seat #5
    Preflop: fulksy dealt J J
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 folds
    fulksy raises to 240

    s2kblue folds
    Slateslide raises to 550, and is all in

    maria300 folds
    ericausen folds
    riesendusel folds
    fulksy calls 310
    Slateslide shows K A
    fulksy shows J J
    Flop: 2 3 A
    Turn: 7
    River: 8
    Slateslide shows a pair of Aces
    fulksy shows a pair of Jacks
    Slateslide wins the pot (1,220) with a pair of Aces


    9 K UTG+1 (M = 10.92; f+F)
    6 T UTG (M = 8.73; F)

    -----Hand 6-----
    Hero's M = 8.73
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9839952989: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:23:20 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,310)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (2,735)
    Seat 3: Slateslide (1,060)
    Seat 5: maria300 (1,805)
    Seat 6: ericausen (1,170)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (2,165)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (2,455)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (800)
    royalflush369 posts the small blind of 50
    fulksy posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #8
    Preflop: fulksy dealt 9 9
    s2kblue folds
    Slateslide folds
    maria300 calls 100
    ericausen folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 folds
    fulksy raises to 1,310, and is all in

    maria300 folds
    Uncalled bet of 1,210 returned to fulksy
    fulksy mucks
    fulksy wins the pot (250)


    4 4 SB (M = 9.73; f+f+f+f+f+r+F)
    T 8 BU (M = 9.40; r+f+f+f+f+F)
    8 7 BU (M = 9.40; f+f+f+r+F)
    3 J CO (M = 9.40; f+f+f+F)
    T 2 CO (M = 9.40; f+f+F)
    8 K MP1 (M = 9.40; f+F)
    Q 6 UTG (M = 9.40; F)
    5 3 BB (M = 7.83; r+f+f+f+f+F)
    9 T SB (M = 7.17; c+f+f+r+F)
    3 5 BU (M = 6.83; f+c+r+F)
    9 3 CO (M = 6.83; f+f+F)
    J 7 CO (M = 6.83; c+c+F)
    J 7 UTG (M = 6.83; F)

    -----Hand 7-----
    Hero's M = 6.83
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9840083049: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:31:45 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,230)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (2,585)
    Seat 5: maria300 (3,725)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (2,305)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (1,535)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (2,120)
    royalflush369 posts the small blind of 60
    fulksy posts the big blind of 120
    The button is in seat #8
    Preflop: fulksy dealt 7 2
    s2kblue folds
    maria300 folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 calls 60
    fulksy checks
    Flop: A 2 K
    royalflush369 bets 120

    fulksy raises to 360

    royalflush369 folds
    Uncalled bet of 240 returned to fulksy
    fulksy mucks
    fulksy wins the pot (480)


    9 8 SB (M = 8.17; c+r+f+c+F)
    T 3 BU (M = 7.83; f+c+f+F)
    K 7 CO (M = 5.88; f+f+F)
    K Q MP1 (M = 5.88; f+F)
    J 3 UTG (M = 5.88; F)

    -----Hand 8-----
    Hero's M = 5.88
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9840163547: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:36:51 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,410)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (2,725)
    Seat 5: maria300 (2,925)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (3,285)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (1,835)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (1,320)
    royalflush369 posts the small blind of 80
    fulksy posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #8
    Preflop: fulksy dealt A K
    s2kblue folds
    maria300 folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 raises to 320

    fulksy raises to 1,410, and is all in

    royalflush369 calls 1,000, and is all in
    fulksy shows A K
    royalflush369 shows A A
    Uncalled bet of 90 returned to fulksy
    Flop: A 9 7
    Turn: 6
    River: 8
    fulksy shows a pair of Aces
    royalflush369 shows three of a kind, Aces
    royalflush369 wins the pot (2,640) with three of a kind, Aces



    -----Hand 9-----
    Hero's M = ???
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9840170673: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:37:18 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (90)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (2,725)
    Seat 5: maria300 (2,925)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (3,285)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (1,835)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (2,640)
    fulksy posts the small blind of 80
    s2kblue posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #9
    Preflop: fulksy dealt 6 8
    maria300 folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 raises to 320

    royalflush369 folds
    fulksy calls 10, and is all in
    s2kblue calls 160
    Flop: A J J
    s2kblue checks
    kcfan04 bets 160

    s2kblue folds
    kcfan04 shows A 7
    fulksy shows 6 8
    Uncalled bet of 160 returned to kcfan04
    Turn: 3
    River: 9
    kcfan04 wins the side pot (460)
    kcfan04 shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
    fulksy shows a pair of Jacks
    kcfan04 wins the main pot (270) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
    fulksy stands up



    The Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) was developed by JeffreyGB at http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com.
  2. #2
    1. 85o - I don't hate this complete preflop/donkbet flop routine but if you want to do it, bet 40 rather than 60 as if they'll fold to the bigger bet they'll fold to the smaller one

    6 6 UTG (M = 19.00; F) (between 2 and 3) - good fold

    3. 22 - I like this play, it's the same as what the opp in Hand 1 did to you

    4. TT - good play with your stack

    7. 72o - I guess you had a read from the previous hand that opp donkbets the flop and folds to a raise, but I don't like this so much on that flop with an A and K on board.

    K Q MP1 (M = 5.88; f+F) (between 7 and 8) - good fold I think, but it wouldn't be very -EV if you did shove this

    8. AKo - you know this is just a cooler
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    thanks yea the AK nothin you can do, i was more concerned about the KQ hand and weather i was missing hands to steal with, the reraise with the 72 was just based on a read, took a note on him but i was about to fold. also should i be trying to get more value with hands like 99 with 13 bb by standard raising and shoving most flops. i'm runnin super bad and i was just hoping i could plug some leaks to help me out of the rut. i'll try to wait a bit before posting some other tournies i appretiate you having a look.
  4. #4
    Hand 1, fold. Bad habbit unless loads of limpers. You're oop and can get into loads of bad spots with 1 pair. Just leave it. As soon as it's folded you'll forget what you even had.

    66 UTG. Fold is ok, but why not play the hand. I'd raise it.

    Hand 3 is ok, but seems a little risky.

    Hand 6, 99. Pushing this is over kill with your stack. I'd prefer to actually play the hand.

    Hand 7. Again a risky play. You now only have 9BBs behind. When you're right it's good poker, but I just don't think it's necessary in these. Maybe you need to do this in higher buyin SNGs. But these are level 1 players who are totally beatable using ABC and some good push fold poker.

    The rest is fine.

    Don't know what Taipan said, but I'm guessing it's what I'll say. You seem to have FPS. Also, in this tourny, you got away with it everytime, and just lost this time when it came time to shove correctly.

    My guess is that you end up low, often because these fancy plays don't work as well as you'd hope.

    Also FWIW, you'd be better off at stars. The blind structure is too flat at full tilt IMO to really press the edge we have over bad players in these.
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  5. #5

    Default Re: another tourny , running bad and playing bad bad combo

    Quote Originally Posted by fulksy
    -----Hand 7-----

    Preflop: fulksy dealt 7 2
    s2kblue folds
    maria300 folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 calls 60
    fulksy checks
    Flop: A 2 K
    royalflush369 bets 120

    fulksy raises to 360

    royalflush369 folds
    Uncalled bet of 240 returned to fulksy
    fulksy mucks
    fulksy wins the pot (480)
    I think save this move for your appearence on High Stakes Poker, at least you'll get bonus chips from the other players
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    You seem to have FPS
    sorry not sure what this means??

    i really actually try to stay away from those plays, but i thought i had a real good read and took a chance but i totally agree no need in low buy in SNG's

    also by Flatter blind structure in stars you mean theirs more medium blind levels????

    thanks for takin the time to have a look helps a ton appretiated it!!!
  7. #7
    FPS = fancy play syndrome.
  8. #8
    I mean when the blinds increase in a full tilt SNG, they do so in a way that is not as steep as in a pokerstars SNG. I.e. you get higher blind levels faster, which for people trying to maximise an edge in push/fold play is surely desirable
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    Hand 6, 99. Pushing this is over kill with your stack. I'd prefer to actually play the hand.
    What is the best way to play this hand? Our stack is an awkward size, and while pushing may seem excessive, I don't like raising over the limper. Did you mean just check and take it from there?

    I think I like the push here more than any other option.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Rage2100
    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    Hand 6, 99. Pushing this is over kill with your stack. I'd prefer to actually play the hand.
    What is the best way to play this hand? Our stack is an awkward size, and while pushing may seem excessive, I don't like raising over the limper. Did you mean just check and take it from there?

    I think I like the push here more than any other option.
    -----Hand 6-----
    Hero's M = 8.73
    Full Tilt Poker Game #9839952989: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (74862278), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:23:20 ET - 2009/01/03
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: fulksy (1,310)
    Seat 2: s2kblue (2,735)
    Seat 3: Slateslide (1,060)
    Seat 5: maria300 (1,805)
    Seat 6: ericausen (1,170)
    Seat 7: riesendusel (2,165)
    Seat 8: kcfan04 (2,455)
    Seat 9: royalflush369 (800)
    royalflush369 posts the small blind of 50
    fulksy posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #8
    Preflop: fulksy dealt 9 9
    s2kblue folds
    Slateslide folds
    maria300 calls 100
    ericausen folds
    riesendusel folds
    kcfan04 folds
    royalflush369 folds
    fulksy raises to 1,310, and is all in

    maria300 folds
    Uncalled bet of 1,210 returned to fulksy
    fulksy mucks
    fulksy wins the pot (250)

    Pushing is fine here. There are 250 chips in the pot preflop which is 19% of our stack. Anytime there is more than 15% of my stack in the pot due to the blinds or dead chips and I have a hand I want to play, I usually just shove it (hence the 10x BB open shove "rule")
  11. #11
    Pushing is fine here acording to WIZ so I ain't arguing. 66+, ATs+ AJ+ according to my sensible limp/calling ranges.

    I take back what I said and nh
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