DONKEY gets lucky!

[HarleyGuy13]

Ok so I'll start off saying I'm going to show these results cuz I'm really only posting this because I know I screwed myself. One of my leaks is I start getting a feeling somebody is pushing me/the table around then I make a move and fuck myself. Well this was exactly what happened. This guy comes and sits at the table and is coming over everybody for like 7-8 hands. I get "My feeling" and decide I'll show him!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP3 ($2.74)
CO ($1.25)
Button ($2.52)
SB ($3.95)
BB ($5.05)
UTG ($1.69)
UTG+1 ($3.48)
Hero (MP1) ($1.79)
MP2 ($2.98)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, K
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB calls $0.08, UTG (poster) calls $0.08, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.63) 3, 5, 6 (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.65, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.15 (All-In), 2 folds, UTG calls $1.15, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($4.08) J (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.08) 7 (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $4.08 | Rake: $0.20

Results:
UTG had 6, 9 (one pair, sixes).
Hero mucked Q, K (high card, King).
CO had 6, 5 (two pair, sixes and fives).
Outcome: CO won $3.88


Yeah did you notice he didn't even come over the top and raise me pre-flop, but I had already decided I was gonna teach him a leason. God damn I piss me off!

OK so I'm steaming at myself for being a fucktard. I stay out of one hand when this comes:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($3.26)
MP2 ($3.86)
CO ($3.92)
Button ($5)
SB ($3.46)
Hero (BB) ($2)
UTG ($2.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Button raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.36, UTG calls $0.34, MP2 calls $0.34, Button calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.45) 4, K, 10 (4 players)
Hero bets $1.64 (All-In), 1 fold, MP2 calls $1.64, 1 fold

Turn: ($4.73) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.73) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.73 | Rake: $0.20

Results in white below:
Hero had Q, Q (one pair, Queens).
MP2 mucked A, 5 (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $4.53

Dude really goes bonkers after that and shoves for like 6 hands str8 but I don't get another hand to get involved with before he leaves.
Ok I'm rambling about nothing but I got a kick out of it. Now I gotta put my head on str8 and start learning this damn game and stop doing stupid things!

[TLR]

Your first hand was played very poorly, with so many people seeing the flop and a very coordinated flop you want to check/fold the flop.

Generally speaking you don't have to 'show' anybody anything at the poker table, when someone plays very loose aggressive you want to wait for good hands and get paid with them, getting into a tilt over an ego war is a sure way to lose money long term

[Monsieur_chat]

I don't see why you expect him to re-raise you preflop in the first hand? Admittedly he shouldn't even be flat calling with that hand but you have to let it go when he re-raises you on the flop. At these stakes I think I'm yet to play a hand where I've been re-raised (fairly) hard on the flop after being flat called PF and not been a mile behind i.e up against *at least* two pair, usually trips.

Also, fwiw I've stopped playing QKo in anything but very late position as it just seems to get me in trouble. But then I am rather tight and I know a lot of good players can make money from it...

[kb coolman]

Ah, we can all sympathize with the case of IDS (irritating DONK syndrome). But you have to admit you played the first hand very poorly. So, let's look at where to go from here:

You recognize your play as horrendous
a) you were playing 'revenge' poker
b) you allowed your emotions to control the hand
c) you were impatient
d) you dropped to your opponents level of play

I think that sums it up. Now, take out a piece of paper and write "I will not out-donk the donks" and "I am a patient, smart, TAG player" 100 times each.

Remember, playing TAG against idiots is +++EV, but you don't always get your shot at them. Many times, someone else gets to them first. Wait until you can isolate them with even a modest hand. You can usually take them out with mid pair, but I usually wait to stack them until I have 2p+ and he hits on his weak ace.

[HarleyGuy13]

Ah, we can all sympathize with the case of IDS (irritating DONK syndrome). But you have to admit you played the first hand very poorly. So, let's look at where to go from here:

You recognize your play as horrendous
a) you were playing 'revenge' poker
b) you allowed your emotions to control the hand
c) you were impatient
d) you dropped to your opponents level of play

I think that sums it up. Now, take out a piece of paper and write "I will not out-donk the donks" and "I am a patient, smart, TAG player" 100 times each.

Remember, playing TAG against idiots is +++EV, but you don't always get your shot at them. Many times, someone else gets to them first. Wait until you can isolate them with even a modest hand. You can usually take them out with mid pair, but I usually wait to stack them until I have 2p+ and he hits on his weak ace.

All so very true. This was the whole point of this post. When the title says "Donk get lucky" I am talking about myself. I was a total fucktard the first hand then fortionately I lucked out and was able to stack off on him two hands later. I hope everybody understood I was the DONK! Your point A,B,C and D are all so true!

[bigspenda73]

sheesh the cbet in hand 1 is just so bad

[dranger7070]

sheesh the cbet in hand 1 is just so bad

Ah come on spenda you KNOW this isn't gonna help the guy out.

And Harley, yes you played the first hand poorly, you know, I know it, everyone that reads this post will know it. It's good that you posted it just for the simple fact that maybe getting grilled by some of the regs will make you remember that when you are sitting at the table and it happens again, amirite?

And for the second hand (which I can't believe no one has mentioned yet, why the FUCK are you open shoving on a King high board against a loose aggro? You need to NOT be doing that kind of stuff. You know he could have easily had K3o there lol. And you KNOW he won't fold that King if he hit it. No sense in throwing your money at him when (normally) he's only going to call you when you are behind.

[dranger7070]

O and another word of advice. I didn't use it at first either, but I think it would be a good idea for you to use auto top off feature for your stack. All you have to do is go to options tab on pokerstars and click Auto-rebuy (ring games). This will allow you to make the most money on your big hands. Trust me it seems like you are losing money to the blinds and all that, but TRUST ME this is NOT the case. When you finally get your money hand you have at LEAST a 100bb stack so then you profitz more

Just a lil tip

[bigspenda73]

sheesh the cbet in hand 1 is just so bad

Ah come on spenda you KNOW this isn't gonna help the guy out.

yea I'm just still trying to figure out why'd you cbet KQ on a 653dd flop into 5 players

[dranger7070]

sheesh the cbet in hand 1 is just so bad

Ah come on spenda you KNOW this isn't gonna help the guy out.

yea I'm just still trying to figure out why'd you cbet KQ on a 653dd flop into 5 players

Didn't you get the memo? It's a +++++++EV play

[HarleyGuy13]

sheesh the cbet in hand 1 is just so bad

Ah come on spenda you KNOW this isn't gonna help the guy out.

And Harley, yes you played the first hand poorly, you know, I know it, everyone that reads this post will know it. It's good that you posted it just for the simple fact that maybe getting grilled by some of the regs will make you remember that when you are sitting at the table and it happens again, amirite?And for the second hand (which I can't believe no one has mentioned yet, why the FUCK are you open shoving on a King high board against a loose aggro? You need to NOT be doing that kind of stuff. You know he could have easily had K3o there lol. And you KNOW he won't fold that King if he hit it. No sense in throwing your money at him when (normally) he's only going to call you when you are behind.

Total purpose of the post. Thanks guys I need my ass kicked!

[jackvance]

Seeing as how he is the kind of guy who calls a pot sized shove with A high, I love your play in the second hand!

[HarleyGuy13]

Seeing as how he is the kind of guy who calls a pot sized shove with A high, I love your play in the second hand!

That was a big part of my decision to play it this way. I figured he just saw me totally donk two hands prior and I'm sure he's thinking I was TILTED big time, which I have to say I really wasn't. I recognized my ignorance for what it was and was determined to learn from it. I figured his range was Ax, 22+, suited anything etc. Really felt this was ++EV!

[dranger7070]

Seeing as how he is the kind of guy who calls a pot sized shove with A high, I love your play in the second hand!

That was a big part of my decision to play it this way. I figured he just saw me totally donk two hands prior and I'm sure he's thinking I was TILTED big time, which I have to say I really wasn't. I recognized my ignorance for what it was and was determined to learn from it. I figured his range was Ax, 22+, suited anything etc. Really felt this was ++EV!

Ok, I might have been a little hasty saying it was a bad play (you knew the situation a hellaton better than what I do seeings how you were there lol) I just think that on average you shouldn't do that. Agreed?

[HarleyGuy13]

Seeing as how he is the kind of guy who calls a pot sized shove with A high, I love your play in the second hand!

That was a big part of my decision to play it this way. I figured he just saw me totally donk two hands prior and I'm sure he's thinking I was TILTED big time, which I have to say I really wasn't. I recognized my ignorance for what it was and was determined to learn from it. I figured his range was Ax, 22+, suited anything etc. Really felt this was ++EV!

Ok, I might have been a little hasty saying it was a bad play (you knew the situation a hellaton better than what I do seeings how you were there lol) I just think that on average you shouldn't do that. Agreed?

I do agree dranger. I don't automatically try and get my chips out when there is an over card but I really felt it was worth it on this one. But yes I do agree!

[dranger7070]

We good then

[HarleyGuy13]

Yep always good my friend. Pretty hard to hurt this old tards feelings so don't ever hold back!

[AFchung]

someone in BC once said to stop making +EPEEN plays and make +EV plays instead