2 hands at 100nl

[Da GOAT]

Hand 1::
Opp is pretty much a nit about 17/12 or so from memory. We dont really have any history but there may of been some questionable allin preflop moments with me about a month ago but he MTs tons and ive about 17k hands on him mostly mined. His cb % is pretty stdish in general.

What range of hands are we putting him on here, I was surprised he lead turn. Seems like he wants to protect on turn yet why not then on flop, c/c flop may mean weak pair plus draw but never strength but feels good enough to lead turn?

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG givmild ($121.79)
CO terest ($27.04)
BTN Hero ($98.50)
SB Zerrin ($99.50)
BB vka ($15.92)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is BTN
givmild raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
givmild checks, Hero bets $7, givmild calls $7

Turn: ($23.50, 2 players)
givmild bets $18, Hero ?????

Hand 2::
One probable leak of mine is not working the button enough, I dont call enough on BTN and also probably dont use my position postflop is good advantage. So I tried a move here.

Opp is about 22/19, slightly aggro. I guess its a reason to 3bet but I opted to call preflop. Im basically trying to rep a set I guess but I could have all sets on my range. Hows my line.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG LoLLboLL89 ($108.31)
UTG+1 Rockon ($66.39)
CO Frazze ($169.05)
BTN Hero ($107.93)
SB givmild ($221.87)
BB Mr-T ($107.17)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
LoLLboLL89 raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50, 2 players)
LoLLboLL89 bets $6, Hero raises to $21, LoLLboLL89 calls $15

Turn: ($51.50, 2 players)
LoLLboLL89 checks, Hero bets $36

[jimmy44]

Hand 1: His line does not make much sence indeed. It looks to me like a bluff or a very badly played 2pairs/set (trying to protect). The problem is that this is against a nit, so I might end up folding here. However, maybe a raise to $40 would not be bad, he'll need to fold less then 50% for the bet to be break even.
Hand 2: I think your line is more 87/overpair then a set on such flop dryish board.

[Da GOAT]

on Hand 2 i wudnt repop 87 or an overpair on flop IP

[minSim]

1) I fold turn because villain has Ax or KK a lot.

2) If you have a clean image with this guy the flop raise is ok. No need to make it this big. I'd shut down after it.

[Da GOAT]

1) I fold turn because villain has Ax or KK a lot.

2) If you have a clean image with this guy the flop raise is ok. No need to make it this big. I'd shut down after it.

Hand 1
Why should we fold turn if thats the range you put him on?

Hand 2
You mean make it less on flop?
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Also does the fact we hold KQ make this a better move since it discounts his overpairs?

[bode]

hand 1 is pretty easy to dump. He's basically never on a stone bluff here and his raising range is way ahead of our 2nd pair here.

hand 2: are you always raising a set here on such a dry board? I think that would be the only reason why villain wouldn't give you credit for one.

[ATOTHEC101]

In hand 1 I dont even bet flop, I just check it back and see what develops reacting accordingly.

In hand 2 raising the flop is fine, but give up after that imo.

[bode]

on Hand 2 i wudnt repop 87 or an overpair on flop IP

but you raise a set on such a dry flop? 87 should be raising this flop a good % of the time so we can get a free river card, which we'll need alot. Overpairs i dont raise either, but i never have an overpair in this spot OTB because im 3balling TT+ all day.

[Da GOAT]

Hand 1
Would you all agree he never has trips and better?

Also I think betting flop is best to protect our hand and its current equity. If called I would consider barreling safe turns and rivers.

Hand 2
I think that raising flop then not firing on turn is bad. Thus its best to just give up. Just thought floating is an option.

Just bcoz I may not raise a set doesnt mean opp will think im not raising sets on this flop.

[ATOTHEC101]

In hand 2 I actually prefer floating the flop then betting the turn if checked to. Or even raising the turn if bet into again as youll be giving off a ton of strength making him fold all his 1 pair hands most of the time, including overpairs.

[Da GOAT]

i tend you agree that i should of floated flop, i could also rep sets and striaghts etc. when i raise flop i dont expect overpairs to fold to one bet tho.

[griffey24]

Hand 1 - easy turn fold, not sure what his range is here but your hand is pretty brutal on this board.

Hand 2 - I don't mind the flop raise, and I'd probably bet again on most turn cards. I'm not sure this is the best turn card though. A lot of his possible hands have pair +insiders now, if not two pair, and aren't gonna fold to only a turn bet.

[Da GOAT]

hmm interesting, just had a realization. Would I be correct that if opp had AA or J9 they have effectively the same worth as each other to b/c here since my range is set r air.

Ok time for some fun in hand 1-I didnt fold

Turn: ($23.50, 2 players)
givmild bets $18, Hero raises to $87.50

Oh no he didnt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[minSim]

1) I fold turn because villain has Ax or KK a lot.

2) If you have a clean image with this guy the flop raise is ok. No need to make it this big. I'd shut down after it.

Hand 1
Why should we fold turn if thats the range you put him on?

Hand 2
You mean make it less on flop?
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Also does the fact we hold KQ make this a better move since it discounts his overpairs?

1) TBH, I never thought of shoving. I actually think it's a good move, especially because of his nittyness.

2) Yeah I think 18 has exactly the same FE. Maybe even 16 does.
I know yours is a potsized raise, but this board is super dry so I doubt you're raising that much with a set. And some villains might even think a larger raise means a bluff more often.
I like the other comments about floating vs raising, especially with us having KQ which both will likely be barreled by villain with his whole range. I like a flop raise with T9 more.

[IowaSkinsFan]

1: fold turn, checking behind flop is fine too

2: fold flop

[Da GOAT]

ISF - do u not think his range is weak enough that he will fold a ton to a raise in hand 1.

Hand 2 is messed up I agree. need work in those spots

[griffey24]

I reaaaally don't like the turn shove in hand 1. You're just demolished by his calling range.

His bet sizing doesn't look all that weak to me either.

Not to mention the fact that he was PFR. What hands do you think he's gonna raise PF then c/c flop then lead turn? I feel like he has KQ here (no hearts) or AK, AQ possibly with hearts. Not sure these hands are folding.

[Da GOAT]

stuff like bottom pair + GS/FD, 2nd pair + GS/FD, GS+FD. I expect him to cb all AQ,AK,KQ hands with and without hearts. Maybe bad Ax hands too. So since turns a blank and his range is still weak its seems he feels his hand is good enough to protect but it really cant stand any pressure imo.

i could be wrong but he did FOLD here

Other hand didnt go well and he c/bombed turn.

[griffey24]

i could be wrong but he did FOLD here

Ok so you risked 87 to win 42 about. So assuming you're pretty dead when called, it has to work 68% of the time...

does it?... maybe it does.. but thats pretty damn high. This is way better with a heart at least.. even any heart!

[Alexos]

1: fold turn, checking behind flop is fine too

2: fold flop

yeah, id also like to add that betting turn in hand 2 is okay only IF you follow up on river. The problem you have here is that you didn't size your bets properly to make this happen, and im not even sure you could have. So I'd just muck flop/give up on turn etc..

[Galapogos]

In hand #1 I really don't think he's doing this to fold. Seems like a standard bad-ish player that doesn't know what to do with a pretty good hand. He usually won't be folding though.

Hand #2 you flop raise size is messed up. You're raising pot on a super dry board. I don't see any point in messing with his UTG opens unless you know they're loose enough to be messed with.

[Da GOAT]

i agree that I messed up in Hand 2, happy I decided to post that one.

i still kinda confident in hand 1 though

[jimmy44]

If you want to raise hand 1 why do you feel to push instead of raising to $40-45? This raise seems much stronger then the push.
Would you push with a flush here or try to get more money from villain by calling?

[Da GOAT]

I feel I know what his range is here but I want to put max pressure on him. i dont want him to think he is getting odds to call me here by raising small. Im sure in my read he is a weaktight nit, i dont thinka smaller size is better.

im pretty sure i dont need to bother thinking about balancing here. spots where opp c/c flop OOP then leads turn as pfr is pretty rare. Id also assume he almsot never runs this line so is uncomfortable using the line too.

[nutsinho]

i would never bluffraise flop in hand 2. i would occasionally float.

hand 1 i would normally check flop and as played fold

[Da GOAT]

ok ill have to start admit then that these hands are bad

[covano]

hand 2: raise flop