200NL: JJ in BB vs SB

[jimmy44]

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($219.20)
MP3 ($210.25)
CO ($71)
Button ($42.95)
SB ($101.10)
Hero (BB) ($239)
UTG ($433.75)
UTG+1 ($361.05)
MP1 ($108.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
7 folds, SB calls $1, Hero raises $6, SB calls $6

Flop: ($16) 4, 5, 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $11, SB raises $93.10 (All-In), Hero ???

villain was 18/4/2 over 100 hands.
Should we be happy to stack off half of our stack here hoping that villain is enough on a FD/SD?

[elipsesjeff]

Looks like call according to my calculations. If he never has 88 here or A9o then its a fold though so that might swing things toward the breakeven side on any play.

[pokerfan]

its a no-brainer call IMO. I'm not even scared to play my stack preflop.

[wufwugy]

all day

[Deanglow]

raise

[BankItDrew]

villain has 45 imo

[jimmy44]

Guys, look at villain's stats ...

[mcatdog]

Guys, look at villain's stats ...

Yeah seriously, this homey never has 54. I'm not folding though.

Board: 4c 5h 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.126% 50.13% 00.00% 9925 0.00 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 49.874% 49.87% 00.00% 9875 0.00 { TT-99, 55-44, AhTh, A9s, KhQh }

[wufwugy]

one of the first things that turned my game from a losing one to a winning one was realizing that an overpair is most often the nuts vs a half stack

[Deanglow]

one of the first things that turned my game from a losing one to a winning one was realizing that bottom pair is most often the nuts vs a half stack

[elipsesjeff]

Guys, look at villain's stats ...

Yeah seriously, this homey never has 54. I'm not folding though.

Board: 4c 5h 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.126% 50.13% 00.00% 9925 0.00 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 49.874% 49.87% 00.00% 9875 0.00 { TT-99, 55-44, AhTh, A9s, KhQh }

FWIW, I think villain has JJ+ here too which is what I included in my range plus 6h7h. With those in there its still a call though, but its closer.

[Miffed22001]

call for hamburgers

[Keilah]

why shouldnt he have 54? 18/4 or whatever suggests he either limps like mad or calls a lot of preflop bets.

[Miffed22001]

preflop stats show your opponent doesnt really know how to play 'good' or 'optimal' IMO therefore i would give him much credit here unless i know hes doing this to look like an idiot

[STHollywood]

why shouldnt he have 54? 18/4 or whatever suggests he either limps like mad or calls a lot of preflop bets.

18/4 is not limping a ton of hands, imo certainly not 45.

[STHollywood]

44?

[Keilah]

18/4 is limping or calling 14% of hands, which is kind of a lot IMO. I stand by my opinion that low SCs are in his range.

[elipsesjeff]

18/4 is limping or calling 14% of hands, which is kind of a lot IMO. I stand by my opinion that low SCs are in his range.

If not more than that range because of the SB 'discount'

Remember that if you call your sb every time your VPIP goes up by 10%

so if he completes ATC or a very wide range and plays reasonably nitty otherwise he can have that high VPIP

[badgers]

Remember that if you call your sb every time your VPIP goes up by 10%

It isn't folded around to the sb 100% of the time, I would guess this figure is more like 3%

Remember that if you call your sb every time your VPIP goes up by 10%

It isn't folded around to the sb 100% of the time, I would guess this figure is more like 3%

I said call every time, I didn't say complete every time

but yeah, if you complete ATC and otherwise play normally then it would depend on the PFR of the table