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    Default 100NL, KK is good here?

    hand 1: villain is 22/11/3 over 100 hands. Whats your plan on the flop and turn? My betpot AHK messed up, so i could only bet $8 on the flop.
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    MP2 ($101.20)
    CO ($110.75)
    Button ($96.95)
    Hero (SB) ($103.55)
    BB ($91.85)
    UTG ($104.00)
    UTG+1 ($99.05)
    MP1 ($69.05)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
    2 folds, MP1 calls $1.00, 2 folds, Button calls $1.00, Hero raises to $6.00, BB calls $5.00, 2 folds

    Flop: ($14.00) Q, 3, 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $8.00, BB raises to $16.00, Hero calls $8.00

    Turn: ($46.00) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $28.00, Hero ?
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    personally I re-raise his min-raise on the flop.

    As played, I shove over on the turn.


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    Worth looking at some ranges here I think. Most of these types of players don't 3-bet enough, so pre-flop range is likely 22-JJ, AK/AQ, and some QQ too I guess.

    Of these, I think that flop line fits for:
    AK - 8 combinations
    AQ - 12 combinations
    QQ - 3 combinations
    JJ-55 - 42 combinations
    33/44 - 6 combinations.

    for a total of 71 combinations against this player who isn't prepared to fold an ok hand vs your AK. Your flop line is ok with no draws out, but why call the flop if you are going to check-fold the turn?

    On the turn you're behind 12/68 combinations, and pretty much all of these are betting when checked to - putting you in a horrible spot. Very few players are bluff-re-raising the turn at 100nl. So.. bet the turn!!! weaker hands are still calling, cos they're still suspicious of AK - but they're not re-raising without 33 or better.

    as played, wow, you put yourself in a horrible spot. Push I guess.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Im_new
    personally I re-raise his min-raise on the flop.
    definitely rethink this
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    I would go for a b/f (around $32) line on TURN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    I would go for a b/f (around $32) line on TURN.
    if i bet around $32 on the turn, no way i fold to his shove after putting my half stack in the pot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfan
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    I would go for a b/f (around $32) line on TURN.
    if i bet around $32 on the turn, no way i fold to his shove after putting my half stack in the pot.
    A 22/11/3 guy would definetively call a 2barril with a weaker hand.
    But if he raises he will show up with a better hand most of the time. I don't believe he would raise AQ or KQ on turn.
    I don't think c/f here is the best option. Stack a donk line? maybe
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Quote Originally Posted by Im_new
    personally I re-raise his min-raise on the flop.
    definitely rethink this
    I think, you're right. We can get weaker hands to bet to us on the turn so the call gives us more value.

    flop:
    B/C

    Turn:
    Bet/call shove

    ...if Villain only flats our turn bet... he's probably strong/has us beaten on the river very often, and he's betting to our check on the river....what now?

    If met on river:
    C.... Villain shoves?

    -or-

    B/calls shove???


    So how are we playing the river if he only flats us on the turn?


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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    Your flop line is ok with no draws out, but why call the flop if you are going to check-fold the turn?
    Its either a push or fold on the turn IMO. When in doubt and out of position, i'm usually leaning towards a fold in these spots. Frankly, I dont have the habit of folding to a flop minraise with a good hand.
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    im just flatting his flop raise, then check raising his turn bet allin.
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
    im just flatting his flop raise, then check raising his turn bet allin.
    yea. Me likey...

    + 1


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