What's happened to Everest??? (and the tightening up of FR)

[fisherman]

I started playing 25nl FR at Everest about a year ago and found the games pretty loose. I worked my way up to 50nl and then 100nl beating them at a good rate til I had a bad downswing at 100nl. I stopped playing for a couple of months then picked up 10nl 6-max at Everest but that hasn't worked out so great so tonight I went to try and rekindle the old days by sitting down at some FR tables at Everest. It was only 10nl but to my shock and horror I found the games much tighter than I remeber them. Here are the stats which I have collected over thousands of hands from Everest:

25nl FR, June - August 07 avg saw flop % = %33.53
50nl FR, August - December 07 avg saw flop % = 29.9
100nl FR, Dec 07 - Feb 08 avg saw flop % = %28.17

Today at prime time here with 25k players online at Everest (that's about as many as you will see there) the avg saw flop % for my two sessions of 500 hands (small sample but it is prime time remember) was a mere %27.58!!!!!

This means that 10nl FR games are tighter than the 100nl ones only 4 months ago!!! What has happened? Is this being replicated elsewhere? Does anyone have any SF% from others they could share just so I can see. I played 1500 hands at ipoker which was HORRIBLE. That was 50nl last September and the SF% was 22.31%. I went there to get a bonus but soon gave up because the games were so much jucier at Everest that it wasn't worth it anymore.

[givememyleg]

saaaaaaample siiiiiiiizeeeeee

also, how many hands are "thousands"? that could mean 2,000 or 800,000

[elipsesjeff]

saaaaaaample siiiiiiiizeeeeee

also, how many hands are "thousands"? that could mean 2,000 or 800,000

Hijack!

I'm thinking thousands refers to 4k-20k, tens of thousands from 30k-150k and then hundreds of thousands from 200k-1 million.

After you hit 1 million though it just sounds more baller to say '1 million hands.'

Learn the lingo Carl!

[fisherman]

The sample sizes are about 20k at each level. I think that once you get to that level the SF% is pretty accurate. Having 2m hands will only make it more marginally more accurate.

EDIT: Looking at the trend of the sample sizes you would expect the ASF% fot 10nl to be about 36-37%. There's no way a larger sample size would yield a 8-9% swing

[givememyleg]

saaaaaaample siiiiiiiizeeeeee

also, how many hands are "thousands"? that could mean 2,000 or 800,000

Hijack!

I'm thinking thousands refers to 4k-20k, tens of thousands from 30k-150k and then hundreds of thousands from 200k-1 million.

After you hit 1 million though it just sounds more baller to say '1 million hands.'

Learn the lingo Carl!

ah, shucks!

[jyms]

On Everest, the preflop numbers mean nothing. Nobody there can play post flop so just make sure you have a few looser players to your right and enjoy.

I play $100NL 6 max there and have a great time. I just make sure that there is at least 2 or 3 French flags in the table list before I sit.