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    Default Ok...now what (fold equity)

    Havent posted in forever, and ran into an issue. Halp.

    10nl at UB. Poker tools dont like UB, so no poker tracker stats or hand conversion

    Lately Dirty DInk has been raising pretty wide, and stealing (probably) a good number of pots. I've seen him do the bet small on flop then huge on turn line with the nuts, but his potsized bets are usually no better than two pair, with the large majority in the top pair or nothing at all region. Exteach just came to the table, so no reads at all.

    For whatever reason, I decided KJs was good enough to fight him with, probably a mistake, could probably wait for something better, but i did it. Check the flop because I knew DirtyDirk would bet at it, and then ill do the whole check raise all in with the straight and flush draw.

    CowBoysFann1 is at seat 0 with $24.33.
    777_Spyke_777 is at seat 1 with $4.48.
    Poobar is at seat 2 with $4.36.
    CanadaBlows is at seat 3 with $2.03.
    DirtyDirk is at seat 4 with $13.46.
    exteach is at seat 5 with $4.97.
    goldminde is at seat 6 with $1.75.
    HERO is at seat 7 with $8.19.
    sequoia7809 is at seat 8 with $10.15.
    cat_call is at seat 9 with $1.90.
    The button is at seat 5.

    goldminde posts the small blind of $.05.
    HERO posts the big blind of $.10.

    CowBoysFann1: -- --
    777_Spyke_777: -- --
    Poobar: -- --
    CanadaBlows: -- --
    DirtyDirk: -- --
    exteach: -- --
    goldminde: -- --
    HERO : Js Ks
    sequoia7809: -- --
    cat_call: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    3 folds
    777_Spyke_777 calls.
    2 folds
    DirtyDirk raises to $.40.
    exteach calls.
    1 fold
    HERO calls.
    777_Spyke_777 folds.

    Flop (board: Ad 8s Qs):

    HERO checks. DirtyDirk bets $1. exteach raises to
    $2.50. HERO... ???

    Ok, so my plan seems to have an issue now. With exteach raising and no reads on him, i likely have no fold equity with him right? Is what i intend to do still viable without that equity, or do I have to fold knowing that he is gonna call whatever i bet?
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    have you downloaded Ultimate History? you need to have it running to import hands in HoldemManager, so perhaps the same applies to Pokertracker.

    As to the hand; you have no fold equity against exteach because he has half his stack in already and you're flipping at best (not likely since he probably has the ace or better in which case you're dominated), but if DirtyDirk comes along your equity in the pot might be good. But that's a big if, so I think folding here is the way to go (at worst it's a small mistake).
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    This isnt a flip, you're getting in with about 30% equity. Work out the pot odds (assume he'd just pushed, since he wont fold) and see if its worth it.
    Just dipping my toes back in.

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