25nl 3bet pot weird spot

[Marshall28]

if you have ever played against me or know anything about me u'd know that i hate folding ... to the extent i think it's a sin folding tptk in a 3bet pot.

i had been playing a pretty aggressive game .. 29/22/4 or so, but there was no dynamic or game flow reason to assume villain would play back light ... anybody think i can ever be good here?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($25)
Hero ($30.65)
BB ($18.30)
UTG ($25)
MP ($25.95)
CO ($23)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A.
MP raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.6, 1 fold, MP calls $2.65.

Flop: ($7.35) K, T, 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $5.25, MP calls $5.25.

Turn: ($17.85) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $10, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $17.85

[Marshall28]

lol i just realized how retarded this question is and that it's me going back into that old mindset of trying to outplay donks.

wow im really bad for folding here. he can have KJ K9 JT T9. plus i have equity against hands im behind. this was a stupid question. i shoulda just jammed, villain told me after hte hand he had AK. wow, quick lesson i just gave myself.

[Manners]

yea i agree, easy shove really. I kinda like checking the turn here it looks like we just gave up, and as a result we are prob underrepped. another reason to shove.

[Fnord]

You're potstuck bro. Double the money behind and we can start to talk about a fold.

Gutshots and middle pair are calling that flop, however knowing MP's aprox open range would help a lot to figure the chance he didn't hit at least 2 pair here.

I might bet a whee bit more on the flop to set-up closer to pot behind on the turn, but it's a nitpick...

[JonnyCosMo]

You trapped him... wtf

[JonnyCosMo]

Btw, absolutely love how you give information on how your playing and nothing about the villan. Because obviously, information about how you are playing vs a NL25 villan who's probably not paying enough attention to realize how fast your playing is more important than actually knowing how your opponent plays.

[Marshall28]

Btw, absolutely love how you give information on how your playing and nothing about the villan. Because obviously, information about how you are playing vs a NL25 villan who's probably not paying enough attention to realize how fast your playing is more important than actually knowing how your opponent plays.

i thought u were done giving me advice? i actually liked it better that way. but yeah, i appreciate your incessant negativity.

[will641]

this isnt meant as a cheap shot or anything, but didnt you just post a million 400nl hands like 5 days ago? why are you posting a 25nl hand?

[JonnyCosMo]

Again, not like you ever listen to my advice so it's kind of the same as not giving any at all?

[Marshall28]

this isnt meant as a cheap shot or anything, but didnt you just post a million 400nl hands like 5 days ago? why are you posting a 25nl hand?

it was actually jonnycosmo's advice that i should post more hands instead of just giving advice, but i think u can kinda see why i wouldnt want to post a hand when u look at the advice i get from douche bags like him.

[will641]

i think it really depends on the game flow here. i think we should check/jam here.

[will641]

villain probably thinks you are a maniac at this point right?

[Marshall28]

the "question" has already been answered by myself manners and fnord. it was a dumb post to begin with.

[will641]

this isnt meant as a cheap shot or anything, but didnt you just post a million 400nl hands like 5 days ago? why are you posting a 25nl hand?

it was actually jonnycosmo's advice that i should post more hands instead of just giving advice, but i think u can kinda see why i wouldnt want to post a hand when u look at the advice i get from douche bags like him.

not really. cosmo doesnt really post that often here, but i think it would awesome if he did, because everything he's posted so far has been either pretty funny or dead on.

[Marshall28]

hes my roommate, he only posted because he probly searched to see if i had posted anything and came to bring something negative.

yeah, hes a damn good player, just always wants to assert his ego over me and be negative in any way he can.

[bode]

so..... you never really answered this.

this isnt meant as a cheap shot or anything, but didnt you just post a million 400nl hands like 5 days ago? why are you posting a 25nl hand?

[bode]

i meant to ask something in one of your 400nl HH's but never got around to it.

[Marshall28]

i posted a series of 400nl hands because I thought I might have been making mistakes w/out realizing it and was trying to figure out if u guys would just attribute the hands to running bad or if I really was making mistakes.

i had a really screwed up mindset after running bad for so long; RE: my blog here (talks extensively about it) ...and pretty much went busto.

so now im starting from the bottom to regain the discipline and confidence that i had lost.