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  1. #1

    Default Two AKs hands

    Villain is 22/13/2 over only 15 hands. I just figure I'm getting beat by most hands. Is this a bluff often enough to call the river? Maybe the turn is a c/f? Arg, I hate these spots. Nevermind, this is an obvious call. I'm so fucking weak. Hate on me please.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($10)
    Hero ($45.55)
    BB ($30.40)
    UTG ($55.45)
    MP ($27.60)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K.
    UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

    Flop: ($6) 8, A, J (3 players)
    Hero bets $5, BB folds, UTG calls $5.

    Turn: ($16) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks.

    River: ($16) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $8, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: $16


    Hand #2, Villain is 44/29/1 over only 20 hands. He hasn't done anything out of line, but is winning a few pots without showing down so far. I feel so weak-tight folding this to a turn min-raise.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB ($29.50)
    Hero ($39.30)
    MP ($26.65)
    CO ($62.70)
    Button ($30.45)
    SB ($29.50)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K.
    Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($4.75) K, 8, 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.5, Button calls $3.50.

    Turn: ($11.75) 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets $7, Button raises to $14, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: $25.75
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  2. #2
    hand 1 you should be 3betting PF or c/r'ing the flop or something.

    My gosh the fold is just so beyond my comprehension. You realize he could be vbetting worse on the river (AT/KK/KhQh/QT-if he's loose enough 15 hands doesnt cut it) and he does not necessarily have to be bluffing here. Anyways you only have to have to best hand 25% of the time. I'm just wondering if those numbers go through your head when making river calls/folds like these. I take them for granted being a past-time limit noob but I see a lot of you guys disregarding pot-odds on the end lately.

    Hand 2 mehhhhh turn min-raises, looks like a semi-bluff to me (67/89)... or a set lol. Imma station here and at least call and then probably price myself into calling a river shove.
  3. #3
    hand 1 snap call river my god. Calling pre is fine, OOP i probabl threebet though. Flop is fine, i probably b/f turn. It's just a suck spot.

    hand 2 is marginal so its not worth debating.
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  4. #4
    I think when you've under-represented your hand as much as you have in the first hand that folding is just downright criminal.
  5. #5
    I agree hand #1 is a easy call. I F'd it up. I agree with ISF, turn is a bet fold. I convinced myself that a 13%PFRer doesn't raise AT or worse UTG, so I figure he's value betting 2 pr. The turn check was probably not AJ/AQ though. Whatevs, I know now I should have called. I also didn't 3bet because I figure his UTG range is tighter and don't want to get 4bet or all in w/ AK pre. Probably again too nitty. AK is upper 3% of hands, easy 3bet. Thanks Spenda & ISF.
    Also Spenda I failed to consider pot odds in this situation, b/c I was so convinced to put him on such a tight range. I don't know why I clammed up, but I just didn't see anything I was beating anymore. Obviously at 3:1 I need to call since I'm ahead of some and usually assign at least 10% or a range to air/bluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly String
    I agree hand #1 is a easy call. I F'd it up. I agree with ISF, turn is a bet fold. I convinced myself that a 13%PFRer doesn't raise AT or worse UTG, so I figure he's value betting 2 pr.
    Don't give someone credit for being positionally aware if they're an unknown, plus you only have a 15 hand sample. When I'm running with about a 13% pfr, my UTG range still includes every PP, ATo+, A9s+, and KQ+.

    Also, if you're afraid that guy's range is that tight, 3-betting and getting pushed out is way cheaper than calling the raise and hitting the flop, and still not being good.


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  7. #7
    1: easy call on river, 3bet pre if opponent isn't positionally aware (i.e. he opens pretty much the same hands on the button as he does UTG)
    2: I'm happy with fold here, call/minraise turn is often something fucking huge, and even when it isn't you're probs not far ahead
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    hand 1: 3bet pre obv. as played i fire a second barrell on the turn, but its a b/f situation there. As played your hand is so underrepped that im even thinking about raising. Thats probably bad, but you have to call here.

    hand 2: its close. i might call and see what he does on the river since he is somewhat unknown but i dont hate how you played it.
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