50 NL line check

[gametight]

Villian is 23/23/2 over 21 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($47.95)
UTG ($61.75)
UTG+1 ($65.50)
MP1 ($45.25)
MP2 ($29.25)
Hero ($68.10)
CO ($42.95)
Button ($36.75)
SB ($18.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
4 folds, Hero raises to $2, CO raises to $6.5, 3 folds, Hero calls $4.50.

Flop: ($13.75) 5, 2, 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.75, Hero raises to $61.6, CO calls $27.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($86.65) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($86.65) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $86.65

Anyone folding on this flop?

[gametight]

Also this hand

Villian is new to table, no reads

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($110.05)
MP1 ($45.05)
MP2 ($29.25)
CO ($51)
Hero ($44.60)
SB ($32.20)
BB ($55.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
5 folds, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 8, 3, Q (2 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4.50.

Turn: ($16.25) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $47.75, Hero calls $24.60 (All-In).

River: ($89.45) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $89.45

[wufwugy]

1. No, I don't fold the nuts.

2. The hands you beat don't play much like this. However, you are going to get bluffed here seldom vs some villians. This guy being unknown kinda sucks, since, well, you know he's bad (if you play enough that unknowns are new players), you just don't know what kind of bad. Kind of a tough hand. Any hands in his range you beat I think are vastly complete air or some stupid draw or pair bluffing. Probably less likely he has something like Qxhh since he crai'd instead of donked. You're kinda getting too good of odds to fold since he's unknown and could have turned a queen into a bluff. I dunno, though. This is not a situation I remember being in enough to know.

And he probably had T9

[daven]

Hand 1 I bet-fold flop. 21 hands isn't a read. Solid pre-flop 3-bets are frightening in low-stakes fullring. I don't really understand the check-raise, I think you're behind about 70% of the time here, and villain is only calling if he's ahead.
Hand 2 set line. But as played I think you gotta call.

[wufwugy]

lol I didn't see the 3bet pre; how does that happen? You can get away with check/calling flop then check/folding turn.

[Fnord]

Hand 1: Meh, I wouldn't feel too bad about it stacking off there.
Hand 2: I think you can find a turn fold although his flop line is retarded enough that I really hate not playing for all of his chips here.