Need some math help

[fjuanl]

Hey guys...don't know if any of you remember me but I've gotten back into poker. I cashed out everything awhile back and couldnt get anything back on PS...ended up using my FPP points for the 70 pt qualifiers and I've been able to build up a decent roll.

Can someone explain mathmatically why I made a good push here? I know its what I'm supposted to do but I always cringe when I get into this situation. This hand made for any easier decision since the BB and I had the same # of chips, but I hate doing this if the BB has 8k

I think this is from a 3-table sng, probably with about 16 players left. Can someone do the numbers from a few different calling ranges?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP (t4620)
CO (t1745)
Button (t2415)
Hero (t2065)
BB (t2075)
UTG (t2255)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, Q.
4 folds, Hero raises to t2065, BB...

[Zee Devee]

Yea I remember seeing you around when I was still a lurker.

Ok, so about that math:

Can someone please check my math on situation 1? I got a negative number when I tried to do it with a 10% range, so I moved it to 15%. I think my equation is right, I just don't know.

You currently have a stack of 2065 worth 14.4% of the prize pool.

If you fold you will have 1965 chips worth 13.8% of the prize pool.
If you push and he folds you have 2265 chips worth 15.6% of the proze pool.
If you push and he calls (you win) you have 4130 chips worth 25.6% of the prize pool.
If you push and he calls (you lose) you have 0 chips worth 0% of the prize pool.

Lets give him 3 ranges, you pick which one you think based on reads. We will give the ranges of :
15% of hands (77+,A7s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QJo)
20% of hands(66+,A4s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,J To)
30% of hands(55+,A2s+,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A7o+,A5o,K9 o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o)

So the equation looks like this for each case:

Calling with 10%: .138=(.85)(.156)+(.15)((x*.256)+((1-x)*0)
x= .14 so Q3s needs to be at least 14% against this range to make it +EV.

Q3s is 33% against this range so it is +EV.

Next is 20%: .138=(.8)(.156)+(.2)((x*.256)+((1-x)*0)
x=.26 so Q3s needs to be at least 26% against this range.

Q3s is 35% against this range so its +EV.

Final is 30%: .138=(.7)(.156)+(.3)((x*.256)+((1-x)*0)
x=.375, so Q3s needs to be at least 37.5% against this range.

Q3s is 38% against this range, so it is also +EV.

Well, there ya go.

[taipan168]

Zee, did you take into account that this isn't a single table SNG so the payout structure needs to be adjusted accordingly?

John, great to see you back in the game!

[Zee Devee]

Zee, did you take into account that this isn't a single table SNG so the payout structure needs to be adjusted accordingly?

John, great to see you back in the game!

Ahhh, thats why your a consistant winner and I'm stuck at the 6.50's

I guess it really doesn't matter anyway, because the imc calculator I used only has 3 spaces for payout. Are there any other ones with more options for different prize structure?

[taipan168]

Try downloading this one that's what I normally use as my default now.

[Zee Devee]

that is probably the best program I have now (because I don't have SNGPT and I have to them by hand if I want to know if I suck or not).

tytytytyty

[badgers]

Try downloading this one that's what I normally use as my default now.

Great link tai, thanks.