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2 big pots, overplayed?

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  1. #1

    Default 2 big pots, overplayed?

    just want to check if anyone plays differnt in these two hands...maybe i'm being too aggressive?

    1- no special image, maybe tag. villain's stats are 50/15 over ~100 hands.

    Ultimate Bet
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $1./$2.
    6 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $255.55
    Hero: $247
    CO: $203.60
    Button: $468.80
    SB: $694
    BB: $425

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K J
    UTG calls, Hero raises to $9, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

    Flop: K 3 3 ($30, 3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $20, Button calls, UTG folds.

    Turn: J ($70, 2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $50, Hero raises all-in $218


    2- no special reads.

    Ultimate Bet
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $1./$2.
    5 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $203.45
    Hero: $258.90
    Button: $125.15
    SB: $235.20
    BB: $90.70

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K J
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

    Flop: K Q T ($22, 3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $14, Button calls (quickly), BB raises all-in $83.7, Hero raises all-in $251.9, Button calls all-in $118.15.
    Uncalled bets: $119.75 returned to Hero.
  2. #2
    Btoh hands are fine.

    Hand 1: I like this because villain will pay you off with another King and sometimes a flushdraw.

    Hand 2: I don't think you overplayed this. You never know with these 1/2 buy-in type players.
    You could fold this against very passive players.
  3. #3
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    i think both are fine also. I hand 1, i would lean more towards just firing another barrel since villain is probly a station.

    hand 2 is especially fine since both villains have only 1/2 a buyin.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
  4. #4
    i sorta like c/r in hand 1 to punish a potential floater...
    but i agree without that read just based off stats, firing the turn makes more sense.

    what do you think if i bet 50 there instead and villain is the one that pushes?
  5. #5
    i like 1.

    2 is ok, but if they were deeper I don't think I'd like it.
  6. #6
    Hand 1 is fine Hand 2 i'd probably call but its close, problem is in these spots you don't know if theres really 4 aces left in the deck to count as outs. (I know you're not supposed to think about that when calculating outs but i like to in these spots) If it were deaper i might fold hand 2
  7. #7
    I know you're not supposed to think about that when calculating outs but i like to in these spots
    What do you guys think about keeping this thought in mind when looking at outs?
  8. #8
    I like both
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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