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    Default 200NL Flopped straight meets AI on river

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 ($171.20)
    MP2 ($62)
    MP3 ($1153.10)
    CO ($295.55)
    Button ($184)
    SB ($444.20)
    Hero ($214.45)
    UTG ($207.75)
    UTG+1 ($191.55)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 6.
    UTG calls $2, 4 folds, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: ($8) 5, 3, 2 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $7, UTG calls $7, CO folds, SB folds.

    Turn: ($22) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $20, UTG calls $20.

    River: ($62) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $50, UTG raises to $178.75, Hero ???

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    I hadn't seen much of Villian, we had only played together around 2 orbits, he hadn't done anything out of the ordinary and seemed to be tight.

    Do you make the river call?
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    Well, the only hand that beats you is a flush, and runner runner doesn't seem likely. I call here and pay off a flush.
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    Interesting ... would Ax suited play this way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturaltan
    Interesting ... would Ax suited play this way?
    As in flopped wheel, runner runner flush?

    Wow id pay that off i think.

    I dont see how you can lay this down.
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    the only reason i call this is because you have the 4 of spades, but im guessing you see As6s here a lot. and everytime ive ever been in a pot where a runner runner flush draw hit and i called a push they had it.
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    this is a really tough fold, but its a fold I think that I make.
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    Fold. Villain shows A6 spades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    Quote Originally Posted by naturaltan
    Interesting ... would Ax suited play this way?
    As in flopped wheel, runner runner flush?

    Wow id pay that off i think.

    I dont see how you can lay this down.
    maybe A 5 suited. Don't know ... this is a tough one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Fold. Villain shows A6 spades.
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    JJ maybe?
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    I can't fold here. You're getting almost 2.5:1 and there's a chance he's bluffing, has a poorly played set or worse straight.
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    If you read him as tight I can't hink of many likely flush holdings that would continue on from that flop & bet.

    For a flush I would think its someone who thinks you are Cbetting and is holding something like A5s, A6s and decides to call with TP and/or the gutshot and then when the turn hits thinks "gee i have combo draw now, lets go".

    How many of you would float that flop with the pot size bet holding A5/A6 suited? Especially if you're tight.

    I'd have to call this river. But then again I've had similar luck as Bair.
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    I really don't think I can find a fold here... ugh, tough spot. Love to know the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Fold. Villain shows A6 spades.
    You gonna call a $20 turn bet on a draw like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Fold. Villain shows A6 spades.
    You gonna call a $20 turn bet on a draw like that?
    Villian might. Doesn't matter is Rond would or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Fold. Villain shows A6 spades.
    You gonna call a $20 turn bet on a draw like that?
    um ya

    all fish call all bets with all draws when any cards are to come


    This is the fundamental theorem of fish.
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    Results:

    I thought about it for forever, ran out my time bank, and then painfully folded.

    I then went on to play about 200 more hands with him, and I feel that he had me beat there because he ended up having an extremely low aggression frequency, and the AI raise had been almost instant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Fold. Villain shows A6 spades.
    You gonna call a $20 turn bet on a draw like that?
    yes.
    look at the stack sizes and implied odds. Its actually brilliantly played on the river because we made our hand obvious on the turn and cant find a way to fold the river really... Its even better if opp knows how to bluff too.

    Im happy to pay this off at 200nl i think, certainly at 100nl, id think harder if this were 400nl+

    the more i look at this the more it doesnt look like Axs from UTG by a guy who is a relative post-flop passive.

    btw, nogenius did you post this on 2+2? Ive seen a couple of your posts on there (or at least i think its you ) if you did, did you get any answers?
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    Really badly played 77?

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