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  1. #1

    Default KK line check

    How's this line vs. an unknown? Am I becoming a nit?

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    $100 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, June 25, 02:38:33 ET 2006
    Table Table 96956 (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: wolson2 ( $94.50 )
    Seat 2: JRMR802 ( $102 )
    Seat 3: DivisnByZero ( $92.35 )
    Seat 4: Sandwichgirl ( $97 )
    Seat 5: Mufasa007 ( $279.63 )
    Seat 6: Reagen ( $119.33 )
    Seat 7: SwassLikeMe ( $23.50 )
    Seat 9: abbeyro ( $211.71 )
    Seat 10: todayislucky ( $123.85 )
    Seat 8: JaredTaskin ( $106.45 )
    JRMR802 posts small blind [$0.50].
    DivisnByZero posts big blind [$1].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to JaredTaskin [ Ks Kc ]
    Sandwichgirl folds.
    Mufasa007 folds.
    >You have options at Table 96972 Table!.
    Reagen folds.
    SwassLikeMe folds.
    JaredTaskin raises [$4].
    abbeyro raises [$8].
    todayislucky folds.
    wolson2 folds.
    JRMR802 folds.
    DivisnByZero folds.
    >You have options at Table 96113 Table!.
    JaredTaskin calls [$4].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Qs, 8d ]
    JaredTaskin bets [$12].
    >You have options at Table 96972 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 96763 (No DP) Table!.
    abbeyro raises [$30].
    >You have options at Table 106843 Table!.
    JaredTaskin folds.
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    I see AQ/KQ a lot here. I call and check the turn.
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    Good fold. Q on the flop means his most likely range has you beat. You can call and see if he slows down though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance
    Good fold. Q on the flop means his most likely range has you beat. You can call and see if he slows down though.
    What is villains range here? A weak min-reraise preflop doesn't mean much to me. I see AK/AQ/JJ a lot more than AA/KK/QQ, though the last are likely. I don't think we can automatically assume we are beat and dump. Doesn't AQ play this way on the flop? Does JJ as well?
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    I think this is QQ+ 100% of the time. AK, JJ don't raise the flop. No one at 100NL is that creative.
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    Your loosing, lolololololololololol
    I 3bet PF. If he pushes, I might find a fold, might not. Probably not.

    As played, I call the flop raise and reevaluate on turn.

    I think this is QQ+ 100% of the time. AK, JJ don't raise the flop. No one at 100NL is that creative.
    Wow, I really disagree with this. I (and many others) often reraise PF in villain's spot w/ TT/JJ/AK/occasionally AQ. As for the flop bet, enough players will reraise on this board with assorted drawing hands/AK/AQ/KQ/and even JJ, that I think folding kings here is really weak.
  7. #7
    What's the point of a PF 3-bet?
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    I might stick in another raise preflop. As played, I'd check/call the flop.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by freechus9
    What is villains range here? A weak min-reraise preflop doesn't mean much to me. I see AK/AQ/JJ a lot more than AA/KK/QQ, though the last are likely. I don't think we can automatically assume we are beat and dump. Doesn't AQ play this way on the flop? Does JJ as well?
    JJ wouldn't I think, but indeed AQ might. Problem is, that is about the only hand we beat. Against an unknown, I'm not too confident here. A donk-read would help greatly in deciding to stick with it here.
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    Your loosing, lolololololololololol
    What's the point of a PF 3-bet?
    You have the second best starting hand possible. Why wouldn't you want to get more $ in?
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    min raise preflop sux. villain sux so tough to say what he is holding. i think u should have lost more on this flop w your overpair but started off by coming overtop of his reraise (to 20 maybe?... 24 perhaps?). ppl minraising preflop (even at nl200) are often terrible players getting "value" out of hands like ak, aq and very often p pairs that you beat.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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