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    Default Checkraised with TPTK on very dry board

    I'd only played four hands against this guy, but he'd not done anything crazy so far. I think my only options are push or fold. It looks like he's fairly confident he's got me beat, and I've defined my hand pretty well. What do you guys think - too weak?

    Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($297.35)
    Button ($349.05)
    SB ($181.15)
    BB ($89.65)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K. SB posts a blind of $1.
    Hero raises to $8, Button calls $8, SB (poster) calls $7, BB calls $6.

    Flop: ($32) K, 6, 2 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $30, Button folds, SB raises to $85, BB folds, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: $147
  2. #2
    fold.
  3. #3
    Why are you raising so huge preflop?

    I also don't bet quite as much on the flop, but this is mostly a stylistic thing. There are no draws present, and I want K-Q, K-J or K-T to call.

    I might fold suspecting opponent slow-played A-A preflop, as this is the only hand that really makes sense given the action. I highly doubt he's making this play with a worse king.
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    The PFR isn't huge, it's barely more than pot-sized. On the flop you are betting way too big. There aren't any draws on the board, so I'd bet about $20 and go from there. As played it's close, but without a read I fold, too. He'd be very stupid to check-raise with KQ or KJ, so it looks either like you both have AK, or he has a set or maybe a slowplayed AA. I like the fold though vs an unknown.
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    Yeah fold. and amen to dsaxton and aislephive about betting less, there are not draws present and you want weaker kings or even MP to call
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    he only raised 4x
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    My comment was towards his flop bet, not about his prfraise (which is fine imo)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muxy
    he only raised 4x
    He bet $30 on a $32 pot.
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    All the confusion is because the converter says $1 BB and in the actual hand the SB posts $1, so it's obviously $200NL. Dsaxton (as well as myself and others probably) originally thought the PFR was to 8x the BB but it was really only 4x.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance
    Quote Originally Posted by Muxy
    he only raised 4x
    He bet $30 on a $32 pot.
    Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
    Why are you raising so huge preflop?
    I was answering sax
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    Yeah, sorry 200 NL, with a BB of $2, so my preflop raise was 4x.

    As to my pot-sized flop bet, given the multiway action I decided to play it very straightforwardly, and just try and take it down there and then, but given the lack of draws perhaps that was a mistake. Anyway, thanks for the advice.

    Incidentally, if villain did have a set of sixes, do you think he played it well? Would it not have been better to wait till the turn to check raise?
  12. #12
    A set rarely plays this way, and two pair is highly unlikely. This is clearly a one pair hand interested in taking down the pot right away, and he seems fairly confident, so my guess is A-A. A-K is also a possibility. Without knowing in advance that your opponent also plays weaker kings like this, you have to fold.

    And yeah, I thought it was $.50/$1 NL because of the converter.
  13. #13
    given the multiway postflop action, and since you don't know him (4 hands) i think you give him the benefit of the doubt.
    In answer to your question... it depends...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alias2211
    given the multiway postflop action, and since you don't know him (4 hands) i think you give him the benefit of the doubt.
    Those are my thoughts exactly.

    A fold is definitely good here......but, in my day I have definitely come over the top of this for a push, gotten a call, and seen Kx a few times here.......

    But, without a read.......I fold 95% of the time here.


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    Potting this flop is not a bad thing if you do it often. It is bad however, if you will only do it with a very narrow range of hands, and the rest of the time check or bet 2/3 - 3/4 pot. Like dsaxton said, it's more of a preference of style.

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