Simple questions

[IowaSkinsFan]

I have simple questions all the time that i would like answers to, i'm new to limit. This could be a post where people can ask them.


I'll ask them in the form of hand histories or just questions...

1. Can you call with a small pp if there is a mid position raise, you expect 5 people to be in the pot (loose table), and you haven't invested any money in the pot?

2. Game #1484351346 - $2/$4 Texas Hold'em - 2006/05/20-10:26:43.7 (CST) Table "Koa (Turbo)" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button Seat 1: redgrape ($58.00 in chips) Seat 2: credward ($94.00 in chips) Seat 3: CN Poker ($14.00 in chips) Seat 4: jakedog65 ($137.00 in chips) Seat 5: Duke31 ($31.00 in chips) Seat 6: ~Nash~ ($73.00 in chips) Seat 7: butkus99 ($85.00 in chips) Seat 8: chiroking ($106.50 in chips) Seat 9: BMW66 ($86.00 in chips) Seat 10: degolove ($190.00 in chips)
credward: Post Small Blind ($1)
CN Poker: Post Big Blind ($2)
Dealing...
Dealt to redgrape [ Ks ]
Dealt to redgrape [ Qc ]
jakedog65: Fold
Duke31 : Fold
~Nash~ : Fold
butkus99: Raise ($4)
chiroking: Fold
BMW66 : Fold
degolove: Call ($4)
redgrape: Call ($4)
credward: Fold
CN Poker: Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ 3s Qs 9h ]
butkus99: Bet ($2)
degolove: Call ($2)
redgrape: Raise ($4)

is it ok to call with KQo, and is it OK to raise on the flop.?

[Nehmer]

My thinking with small pocket pairs is if somebody raises and nobody has cold called the raise when it comes around to me, I will either 3-bet or fold depending on the initial raiser. If somebody has raised and there is one cold caller when it comes to me, I will fold my small pairs. If there is a raiser and 2 or more other callers, I will typically call the raise.

As far as KQo goes, I will 3-bet a maniac or late position raiser, but fold to any other raise. I never cold call with KQo.

[IowaSkinsFan]

87s isn't a good limp here right?

did a lose value by not betting the river?

Game #1484471644 - $2/$4 Texas Hold'em - 2006/05/20-11:52:00.7 (CST) Table "Cirali" (real money) -- Seat 9 is the button Seat 1: joe4646 ($333.50 in chips) Seat 2: Avalanche 14 ($14.00 in chips) Seat 3: vincentg ($112.00 in chips) Seat 4: Grzzman ($95.00 in chips) Seat 5: redgrape ($55.00 in chips) Seat 6: Duke31 ($0.00 in chips) Seat 7: NefarLee ($124.00 in chips) Seat 9: HardAAs ($100.00 in chips) Seat 10: royciek ($98.00 in chips) royciek : Post Small Blind ($1) joe4646 : Post Big Blind ($2) Dealing... Dealt to redgrape [ 8d ] Dealt to redgrape [ 7d ] Avalanche 14: Fold
vincentg: Fold
Grzzman : Fold
redgrape: Call ($2)
NefarLee: Fold
HardAAs : Fold
royciek : Timed out
royciek : Fold
joe4646 : Check
*** FLOP *** : [ 4d 7h 5c ]
joe4646 : Bet ($2)
redgrape: Raise ($4)
joe4646 : Call ($2)
*** TURN *** : [ 4d 7h 5c ] [ 9s ]
joe4646 : Check
redgrape: Bet ($4)
joe4646 : Call ($4)
*** RIVER *** : [ 4d 7h 5c 9s ] [ Ah ]
joe4646 : Check
redgrape: Check

[Xanadu]

78s can't be played profitably from EP unless the table is very loose and passive preflop. After 3 folds, just toss it. If there were 2 or 3 limpers, you could probably play.

You may have missed a value bet on the river, but if the opponent is tight postflop, they will probably only call when you are behind. If your opponent would call down a pair of 4s or 5s, you should bet.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Game #1486631682 - $2/$4 Texas Hold'em - 2006/05/21-13:11:46.1 (CST) Table "Langkawi" (real money) -- Seat 9 is the button Seat 1: ron c. ($101.50 in chips) Seat 2: Mkryz1964 ($160.50 in chips) Seat 3: redgrape ($111.00 in chips) Seat 4: old rebel ($84.00 in chips) Seat 5: mikeh619 ($71.00 in chips) Seat 6: Andersen100 ($74.00 in chips) Seat 7: gruntley1 ($101.00 in chips) Seat 8: Sunrise ($97.00 in chips) Seat 9: Avalanche 14 ($131.50 in chips) Seat 10: zoggbilly ($42.00 in chips)
zoggbilly: Post Small Blind ($1)
Andersen100 said, "ty"
ron c. : Sit out
Mkryz1964: Post Big Blind ($2)
Dealing...
Dealt to redgrape [ Ac ]
Dealt to redgrape [ Qs ]
redgrape: Raise ($4)
old rebel: Fold
mikeh619: Fold
Andersen100: Call ($4)
gruntley1: Call ($4)
Sunrise : Call ($4)
Avalanche 14: Fold
zoggbilly: Fold
Mkryz1964: Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ 8s 6h Qd ]
redgrape??

Bet here right? What if the 8s is an 8h?

[outphase]

I'd bet it