Losing at Party

[samsonite2100]

I never win at Party. This is an embarrassing thing to admit, I realize, like saying you can't get laid at a whorehouse, but it's the truth. I don't know if I'm just on a strange bad streak of cards there, or what, but if so, it's a pretty consistent streak.

My PT bb/100 total is solidly in the red right now, and would be well in the black if I removed my Party stats from the equation. In other words, I do well at other rooms.

I feel like moves I make that work everywhere else don't work at Party. Cbetting doesn't seem to work, in particular.

Does anyone have any suggestions, or a similar experience? It's frustrating b/c I'm usually playing for bonuses, and Party consistently has good bonuses--otherwise, I'd just say fuck it and not play there.

[Myke]

What limits do you play at? What style have you been using?
SnG? Full ring?

I've been doing well at $25NL Full ring so I can offer my advice if you play around that ballpark.

[jackvance]

From what I hear Party is way looser. Play tight, low risk poker there and you'll do fine. Your normal strategy is probably catered towards tighter tables, which is why it doesn't work at Party, where the tables are looser. My Laggish style works miracles on tighter tables - I steal many pots and annoy the crap out of all the ABC players, and sometimes this entices them to make mistakes. At Party I would however play completely different - Tagg poker. The boring kind.

[Warpe]

I think Party's much vaunted fishiness is highly overrated. Of course, if you can't spot the fish at the table...

[samsonite2100]

Myke--I'm playing 50NL full ring currently.

[AHiltz]

I am in the exact same boat. I do well at Prima, but seem to take every suckout possible at Party. I've lost at 25NL, 50NL and 100NL. 90% of the time I've put the money in with the best hand and got taken for a ride.

I know it is variance, and in the long term it will play out, but it is fucking frustrating in the short term.

[Rondavu]

I think Party's much vaunted fishiness is highly overrated. Of course, if you can't spot the fish at the table...

I agree

[Renton]

I think the game at party has gone down hill as of late.

However, its still the best table selection. You just can't make moves as much at party as at other sites. You have to be good at valuebetting and you have to cool it with bluffing and with draw chasing OOP. Usually if you pay outside your odds to chase a draw OOP you aren't getting very well paid off because the villlain is so passive that they will just call you when you hit (instead of raising you).

You just have to gear your game against Loose-Passive and Tight-Passive play (and know when to switch between valuebetting/bluffing).