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 Re: Problems pushing with good hands, how can I de-stack?
 Originally Posted by Pokez
***** Hand History for Game 4032718042 *****
$10 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, April 19, 23:20:59 ET 2006
Table Beginners Life After (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: FlopBuster34 ( $9.15 )
Seat 2: bubbaluba ( $10.60 )
Seat 4: MMJesterFPC ( $4.08 )
Seat 5: L3thalDoSe ( $2.49 )
Seat 6: Villain ( $16.72 )
Seat 8: SWEETMISSY69 ( $4.26 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $9.25 )
MMJesterFPC posts small blind [$0.05].
L3thalDoSe posts big blind [$0.10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh Ks ]
VILLAIN calls [$0.10].
SWEETMISSY69 calls [$0.10].
FlopBuster34 folds.
HERO raises [$0.50].
MMJesterFPC folds.
L3thalDoSe calls [$0.40].
VILLAIN calls [$0.40].
SWEETMISSY69 folds.
Preflop is fine and thats how Id play it.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, As, 6s ]
L3thalDoSe checks.
VILLAIN bets [$0.10].
HERO calls [$0.10].
L3thalDoSe calls [$0.10].
On this flop the pot is about $1.50, villain leads for 1/15th of the pot, you need to raise this for a few reasons. You very likely have the best hand already; however, somebody may have an ace. Even if they have the ace though, you still have 9 outs to the nut flush and 2 outs to a set, so you have 11 solid outs IF you need to improve, which it is very possible you dont. Anyways, you want more money in the pot so that you can more easily get paid off when your hand is the best and if villain shows a lot of aggression you will know you need to hit atleast another K to be good, and you will slow down.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
L3thalDoSe checks.
VILLAIN bets [$0.25].
HERO calls [$0.25].
L3thalDoSe folds.
After villains bet the pot is a little over $2 and he is betting about an 8th of the pot, you need to raise.
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
>You have options at Beginners Hyoglossus Table!.
VILLAIN bets [$0.50].
HERO raises [$3.58].
>You have options at Beginners Hyoglossus Table!.
VILLAIN calls [$3.08].
HERO shows [ Kh, Ks ] a flush, ace high.
VILLAIN doesn't show [ Qs, 2s ] a flush, ace high.
HERO wins $9.16 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with king kicker.
The pot is about $3 after his bet, you go all in. Given your action this last card likely helped you [which it did], a thinking villain is going to be laying down a lot of hands that you beat here [you dont want him to do that] and I would say that a Queen high flush is one of the only hands that would call you there, so again, you arent getting your value out of this hand because you played the other streets very weakly. Yes, you got paid off here, only because villain had one of the only hands that would call this bet.
How did I play this? lol, I was thinking of pushing on the river, but I didnt know how much he would call. When do you know when to push in situations like this? I always hear of people "De-stacking" constantly, but whenever I confidently push I always get folds, and therefore I usually just do a strong raise to get as much value as I can. I also may have played the hand wrong post flop (chasing the nut flush, but I thought I had good pot odds considering he was min raising); however, I do think my preflop raise was good.
You were right to stay in the hand, but you went about it wrong by only calling all the way down and then pushing the river on the 4th spade.
As to your question about when to push, I usually only push, or "put somebody all in" when any reasonable bet or raise commits either me or my opponent. So if the pot is $15, I have $20 left [assume opponent covers me] and a hand I am sure is best, my opponent makes a weak bet of $5, then an reasonble raise will commit me so I would push. If I covered my opponent and he had the stack size that I used for me, then I would push because any raise would commit him.
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