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    Default I need help.

    This is going to be a really long post so bear with it. Have logged about 9500 hands into poker tracker, and below are my stats. I am in the middle of the most massive downswing I have experienced which cut my bb/100 in half (it was about 10).

    I need expert help here. I know there are some really tragic leaks in my game that I just am not seeing.

    Stats:

    Total Hands: 9,589 @ 25nl on Party

    Total amount won: $228.16
    BB/100 Hands: 4.76

    Vol. Put $ In Pot: 15.48%
    Vol. Put $ In from SB: 30.19%

    Won $ WSF: 34.64%
    Won $ ASD: 49.42%

    Went to SD%: 23.18% (this is high isn't it?)

    Preflop Raise %: 7.8%

    AGG. Factor (including PF): 1.33
    AGG. Factor:
    Pre-flop- .87
    Flop- 3.34
    Turn- 1.21
    River- 1.63

    Most profitable hands: (the fact that AA and KK aren't here worries me)

    KQs: 5.53bb/h
    98s: 4.36bb/h
    JTs: 4.17bb/h
    TT: 3.33bb/h
    AKs: 3.05bb/h

    Least profitable hands:
    (thankfully nothing too shocking here, just big hands lost)

    99: -5.29bb/h
    K2s: -2.12bb/h
    55: -2.07bb/h
    QQ: -1.40bb/h (third best hand in poker. Nice.)
    Q2s: -1.25bb/h

    Other noticeable issues:

    AA is a loser (-0.55bb/hand) for me. This disgusts me. I have GOT to do something about this.

    KK isn't losing but its only +0.63, which is kinda disgusting too.

    Please help me here guys. I know I can do better than this. In the post that follows I will post ten or fifteen of my biggest pots lost, and hopefully get a discussion and criticism going about how the hands played out.
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    Below are some of my biggest losing hands. I tried to pick only hands where my actions could be called into question. No bad beats here.

    Ok first some AA losses:

    Hand 1

    The only thing wrong with my play in this one that I notice is the reraise on the river. I probably could have cut losses by just calling here.

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    CO ($33.40)
    Button ($10.55)
    SB ($24.25)
    Hero ($49.95)
    UTG ($16.05)
    UTG+1 ($28.65)
    MP1 ($25.90)
    MP2 ($55.40)
    MP3 ($6.40)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    5 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, SB folds.

    Flop: ($4.25) Q, 3, 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $4, CO calls $4.

    Turn: ($12.25) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $11.65, CO calls $11.65.

    River: ($35.55) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $15, Hero raises to $30, CO calls $0.74 (All-In).

    Final Pot: $81.30

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Ah As (two pair, aces and threes).
    CO has Tc Kc (straight, king high).
    Outcome: Hero wins $81.30.





    Hand 2

    OK shoulda raised more Preflop here. Anything else?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    MP3 ($25)
    CO ($4)
    Button ($33.80)
    SB ($29.25)
    BB ($23.25)
    UTG ($36.43)
    UTG+1 ($19.35)
    UTG+2 ($16.70)
    Hero ($24.90)
    MP2 ($23.25)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Button calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50.

    Flop: ($3.10) 7, J, 6 (4 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets $0.35, Hero raises to $2, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls $1.65.

    Turn: ($7.10) T (2 players)
    UTG bets $5, Hero calls $5.

    River: ($17.10) 4 (2 players)
    UTG bets $7, Hero raises to $14, UTG calls $7.

    Final Pot: $45.10

    Results in white below:
    UTG has Jc Td (two pair, jacks and tens).
    Hero has Ad As (one pair, aces).
    Outcome: UTG wins $45.10.





    Ok now some KK losses:

    Hand 3

    Looking back, this hand is like two retarded kids in a fist fight. Villain was ultradumb to call a huge preflop raise with J4 of diamonds. Hero was a fool who couldn't realize that Villain flopped the flush. Any other comments?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    UTG ($60.80)
    UTG+1 ($13.35)
    UTG+2 ($23.75)
    Hero ($25.60)
    MP2 ($25)
    MP3 ($28.65)
    CO ($25.55)
    Button ($24.50)
    SB ($55.15)
    BB ($6.75)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, MP2 (poster) calls $1.25, 5 folds, UTG+1 folds.

    Flop: ($3.60) 6, 5, 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $5, MP2 calls $23.50 (All-In), Hero calls $18.50.

    Turn: ($50.60) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($50.60) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $50.60

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
    MP2 has Jd 4d (flush, jack high).
    Outcome: MP2 wins $50.60.





    Hand 4

    In this hand villain was playing just so passively that I thought he feared the ace too. Hence I thought I was ahead.

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    Hero ($23.45)
    Button ($39.15)
    SB ($28.03)
    BB ($16.97)
    UTG ($8)
    UTG+1 ($15.65)
    UTG+2 ($24.65)
    MP1 ($20.93)
    MP2 ($25)
    MP3 ($45.15)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K. SB posts a blind of $0.10. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
    UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 (poster) raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $2, MP2 calls $1.

    Flop: ($7.35) 6, 4, A (4 players)
    UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $5, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $5.

    Turn: ($17.35) 6 (3 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero checks.

    River: ($17.35) J (3 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero calls $16.20 (All-In), MP2 calls $16.20.

    Final Pot: $49.75

    Results in white below:
    MP1 has (two pair, kings and sixes).
    MP2 has Qs Ad (two pair, aces and sixes).
    Hero has Kd Ks (two pair, kings and sixes).
    Outcome: MP2 wins $49.75.





    Hand 5

    Another clear case of raise bigger preflop. Any other issues?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    UTG ($9.65)
    UTG+1 ($32.50)
    MP1 ($36.44)
    MP2 ($34.89)
    MP3 ($15.91)
    CO ($23.03)
    Hero ($56.07)
    SB ($26.30)
    BB ($21.55)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.75.

    Flop: ($3.35) 6, T, 6 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP3 bets $0.25, Hero raises to $2, BB folds, MP3 calls $14.66 (All-In), Hero calls $12.91.

    Turn: ($33.17) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($33.17) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $33.17

    Results in white below:
    MP3 has 6d 7d (three of a kind, sixes).
    Hero has Kh Kd (two pair, kings and sixes).
    Outcome: MP3 wins $33.17.





    Alright these last few are various big hands I lost.

    Hand 6

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    UTG+1 ($38.65)
    MP1 ($12.45)
    Hero ($27.35)
    CO ($34.05)
    Button ($8.60)
    SB ($16.10)
    BB ($28)
    UTG ($21.50)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 4 folds, UTG calls $1, MP1 calls $1.

    Flop: ($4.10) 6, 9, 3 (3 players)
    UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $2.5, UTG raises to $7, MP1 folds, Hero calls $4.50.

    Turn: ($18.10) J (2 players)
    UTG calls $13.25 (All-In), Hero calls $13.25.

    River: ($44.60) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $44.60

    Results in white below:
    UTG has Kh Ks (one pair, kings).
    Hero has Qh Qc (one pair, queens).
    Outcome: UTG wins $44.60.





    Hand 7

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    MP2 ($38.05)
    MP3 ($14.35)
    CO ($19.07)
    Button ($43.50)
    Hero ($32.55)
    BB ($38.91)
    UTG ($22.75)
    UTG+1 ($24.75)
    UTG+2 ($7.40)
    MP1 ($25)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q. Hero posts a blind of $0.10. MP1 posts a blind of $0.25.
    3 folds, MP1 (poster) checks, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $1.15, 1 fold, MP1 folds, CO calls $1.

    Flop: ($3) 3, 5, T (2 players)
    Hero bets $2, CO calls $2.

    Turn: ($7) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $7, CO calls $7.

    River: ($21) 9 (2 players)
    Hero calls $22.30 (All-In), CO calls $8.82 (All-In).

    Final Pot: $52.12

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Qc Qd (one pair, queens).
    CO has Jd 5s (two pair, jacks and fives).
    Outcome: CO wins $38.64. Hero wins $13.48.





    Hand 8

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    SB ($24.23)
    BB ($58.53)
    UTG ($25)
    UTG+1 ($48.66)
    MP1 ($4.75)
    MP2 ($25)
    MP3 ($19.30)
    CO ($12.63)
    Hero ($23.80)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q. SB posts a blind of $0.10. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
    3 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB (poster) calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75, MP2 folds.

    Flop: ($3.25) 2, 8, 8 (3 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $2, Hero calls $2, SB calls $2.

    Turn: ($9.25) 3 (3 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4, SB folds, BB calls $4.

    River: ($17.25) 6 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12.

    Final Pot: $41.25

    Results in white below:
    BB has 6c 6h (full house, sixes full of eights).
    Hero has Qs Qh (two pair, queens and eights).
    Outcome: BB wins $41.25.





    Hand 9

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    UTG+1 ($55.65)
    MP1 ($24.65)
    MP2 ($22.65)
    CO ($6.30)
    Button ($23.95)
    SB ($44.15)
    Hero ($35.05)
    UTG ($22.75)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, T. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: ($1) Q, J, 9 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1, UTG+1 raises to $2, MP2 folds, SB folds, Hero calls $1.

    Turn: ($5) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2, Hero calls $2.

    River: ($9) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $6, Hero calls $30.80 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $24.80.

    Final Pot: $70.60

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Qd Tc (straight, queen high).
    UTG+1 has 9d 9s (full house, nines full of queens).
    Outcome: UTG+1 wins $70.60.
  3. #3
    1) Just call the river. You only have one pair, calm down.

    2) Raise the turn or call him down. Deffinitly don't raise the river. There's something suspicious going on and there you are trying to get everything in the pot without thinking. See response 1.

    3) This is fine, I think you'll see a draw here more times then a made flush.

    4) Check it down.

    5) Loads of the time you're gonna be shown A3 and other shit here. Def. not a push situation.

    6) I'm kinda inclined to push the flop. This one ain't too bad considering how how little space you have to manoever postflop at 25nl.

    7) OK but I think that generally you're turn bets are too big. This style is going to lead to some very high variance. You're not leaving yourself any room to get away from a set or whatever.

    8) Raise flop, fold to a push. Other then that its fine.

    9) Raise turn. When the straight hits I suppose getting it in isn't too bad.

    There's a general trend here alright. You're being way too aggressive with your big overpairs.
  4. #4
    You're overplaying your big pairs. Just because you're dealt AA preflop doesn't mean you're going to stack someone.

    Slow down, put people on a hand, and go from there
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    Anyone see any peculiarities in my stats?
  6. #6
    Not really. Your vp$ip and pfr aren't bad. You need some work on your postflop play from what I've seen (not from stats). Or maybe you're just going too nuts with your big pairs
  7. #7
    One recommendation I do have is to raise preflop a standard raise. By this I mean raise all your big hands (AA, KK, AK, QQ, AQ etc) the same amount. Personally, I do $1.50 or $2 (preferably $2) at the Party 25NL tables. I slow down and raise $1.50 if everyone folds everytime to my raise. I think you're getting too many callers preflop on your big hands. I find that this trick masks your hand strength as well as isolates for postflop play. And as the other FTRs have already said, don't overplay your big pairs. Yes an overpair is strong, but easily beatable. Play strong on the flop and go easy from then on (of course, play on reads).
    As with life, poker is filled with difficult decisions.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by midas06
    You're overplaying your big pairs. Just because you're dealt AA preflop doesn't mean you're going to stack someone.

    Slow down, put people on a hand, and go from there
    Yup thats what I wanted to write last night but I didn't have time. You play your hands like AA is invincible and a lisence to stack someone. When you go to a showdown the other guys hand matters just as much as yours.

    The problem is that you don't really give the villian an oppertunity to tell you you're beat. A lot of the time a half pot bet on the turn will get raised by a set and you can drop it. I know its not quite that simple to drop AA because other things will raise you too but at least give yourself some breathing room.

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