Two hands from Full Tilt 25/50

[PO$$E$$ED]

This hand happened a few minutes after I sat down.
What's the word for it- oh yea, PWNED. I believe this is the sickest call someone's made against me, it was so sick I couldn't get mad.

FullTiltPoker Game #380815945: Table Sonador (6 max) - $25/$50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:39:47 ET - 2006/01/12
Seat 1: mamamiya ($3,008.95)
Seat 3: John DAgostino ($4,687)
Seat 4: whitelime ($7,271)
Seat 5: doctor k ($2,816)
Seat 6: blacksnatch ($4,925)
blacksnatch posts the small blind of $25
mamamiya posts the big blind of $50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to blacksnatch [Kc As]
John DAgostino raises to $175
whitelime folds
doctor k folds
blacksnatch has 15 seconds left to act
blacksnatch raises to $425
semiblufer (Observer): she lost like 5k already
mamamiya folds
Race Driver M3 (Observer): howdy JD
John DAgostino calls $250
*** FLOP *** [Td Jc 5s]
Fishin Magician (Observer): John jump on some of that easy tilt cash
Wrennshounds (Observer): 7k
blacksnatch checks
John DAgostino bets $600
blacksnatch calls $600
Abold1 is feeling angry
*** TURN *** [Td Jc 5s] [2d]
blacksnatch checks
John DAgostino checks
*** RIVER *** [Td Jc 5s 2d] [6h]
blacksnatch bets $1,500
John DAgostino has 15 seconds left to act
goodatlife (Observer): kq
John DAgostino calls $1,500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
blacksnatch shows [Kc As] (Ace King high)
John DAgostino shows [3h 3s] (a pair of Threes)
John DAgostino wins the pot ($5,098) with a pair of Threes
blacksnatch adds $2,600
henrybloogada (Observer): nice call
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5,100 | Rake $2
Board: [Td Jc 5s 2d 6h]
Seat 1: mamamiya (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: John DAgostino showed [3h 3s] and won ($5,098) with a pair of Threes
Seat 4: whitelime didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: doctor k (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: blacksnatch (small blind) showed [Kc As] and lost with Ace King high

I don't think I played this hand poorly, but I can't say I was happy with the outcome. I guess an argument can be made for a bigger bet on the turn. Btw krisqueen is awesome, one of the best online NL players.

FullTiltPoker Game #380871570: Table Sonador (6 max) - $25/$50 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:14:14 ET - 2006/01/12
Seat 1: krisqueen ($5,007)
Seat 2: Abold1 ($5,091.45)
Seat 3: John DAgostino ($7,357.50)
Seat 4: whitelime ($10,432)
Seat 5: I_Hate_To_Lose ($1,745.75)
Seat 6: blacksnatch ($5,848)
blacksnatch posts the small blind of $25
krisqueen posts the big blind of $50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to blacksnatch [9c 8d]
Abold1 folds
Katana27 (Observer): He had some insane all ins..anyone see the ** V JJ with Allen?
John DAgostino folds
whitelime folds
I_Hate_To_Lose folds
ppg803 (Observer): he was down to 10k did he make that back
Aces4kids (Observer): he said Utah
Katana27 (Observer): 88
blacksnatch raises to $160
krisqueen calls $110
*** FLOP *** [Ts 8s 9d]
Katana27 (Observer): he did yeah
blacksnatch has 15 seconds left to act
ppg803 (Observer): thats cool
blacksnatch bets $550
krisqueen calls $550
*** TURN *** [Ts 8s 9d] [4c]
GEMINI06 (Observer): all in for how much?
tjtehansky (Observer): katana he is prolly ur friend.//
ppg803 (Observer): i just remeber 9900 someting after an all-in
blacksnatch has 15 seconds left to act
tjtehansky (Observer): ur ,alomg jo, ;ppl great
GEMINI06 (Observer): he had 88?
tjtehansky (Observer): ur making him look great
blacksnatch bets $1,150
krisqueen calls $1,150
*** RIVER *** [Ts 8s 9d 4c] [7c]
blacksnatch checks
krisqueen bets $3,147, and is all in
Katana27 (Observer): with some yes he had 88
blacksnatch has 15 seconds left to act
Katana27 (Observer): flopped a set
Katana27 (Observer): turn was J
blacksnatch folds
Uncalled bet of $3,147 returned to krisqueen
Katana27 (Observer): was unreal
Aces4kids (Observer): MrKFC started with 1K.....made 10K off Farz in like an hour...then up to 30K...then 24K like 2am ET when I left
krisqueen mucks
krisqueen wins the pot ($3,717)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3,720 | Rake $3
Board: [Ts 8s 9d 4c 7c]
Seat 1: krisqueen (big blind) collected ($3,717), mucked
Seat 2: Abold1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: John DAgostino didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: whitelime didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: I_Hate_To_Lose (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: blacksnatch (small blind) folded on the River

[bencathers]

How annoying are those rail birds when you are playing? Do you turn off the observer chat?

[Rondavu]

I definately don't think his call was sick here Possy. As a matter of fact, I'm sure he put you on exactly AK. The way you played the hand tatooed AK on your forehead. You reraised preflop, check called the JT flop, and then when he checked behind the turn you attempted to purchase the river with what he knew you to already have. Your purchase bet size only made it easier for him to call, though he may have called any amount with such a powerful story unfolding from your actions.

I think you have to consider certain things here. You just sat down. D'agastino is more willing to make an investment in a showdown against you for a read if he thinks there's a fair chance he's ahead. The clincher is he wants to establish a strong line with you anyway as a new player at the table. Even if he loses the showdown he gains a lot. These factors coupled with an easy read (IMO) led to a call that was less than sick.

I also tend to think D'Agastino is a little sheriffy, but take it with a grain of salt. It's just what I've observed when I see him play. He can get loose passive through a few hands here and there, though that's probably not what happened here. Who knows what kind of mood he was in when you sat down.

[bencathers]

yeah but rondavu, what about the railbirds!

[PO$$E$$ED]

I definately don't think his call was sick here Possy. As a matter of fact, I'm sure he put you on exactly AK. The way you played the hand tatooed AK on your forehead. You reraised preflop, check called the JT flop, and then when he checked behind the turn you attempted to purchase the river with what he knew you to already have. Your purchase bet size only made it easier for him to call, though he may have called any amount with such a powerful story unfolding from your actions.

I think you have to consider certain things here. You just sat down. D'agastino is more willing to make an investment in a showdown against you for a read if he thinks there's a fair chance he's ahead. The clincher is he wants to establish a strong line with you anyway as a new player at the table. Even if he loses the showdown he gains a lot. These factors coupled with an easy read (IMO) led to a call that was less than sick.

I also tend to think D'Agastino is a little sheriffy, but take it with a grain of salt. It's just what I've observed when I see him play. He can get loose passive through a few hands here and there, though that's probably not what happened here. Who knows what kind of mood he was in when you sat down.

I fully agree with you Rondavizzle. I butchered this hand like no other. My pre-flop min-raise is giving away way too much information on my hand, and has no fold equity. I don't know what I was thinking min-raising from the SB like that, it's just asking for trouble against a top-notch player like Dags.
My flop call was weak- I should've either lead out or check-raised, either play would have had a good chance folding villain.
My river bluff doesn't make a whole lot of sense- what legit hand can I represent with my $1500 bet into a $2000 pot? I guess it kinda looks like I could be trapping with AA-TT, or a blocking bet with AJ/pair of tens, but those hands are somewhat unlikely given my actions.
What I should of done is re-raise preflop to at least $600, lead flop, and if Dags had the balls to see the turn, hammer turn. I fucked this hand up royally, I guess part of the reason for that is I was being all self-conscious and homo because I was playing a hand with Dags. Moral of the story- don't be a bitch and let other people affect you. That is all.

[DoGGz]

You are a fish in the 25/50 game, why are you even playing it?

The 33 call wasn't even close to sick, it was easy. You were like waving a flag saying you had high cards.

[FERBSS]

krisqueen is my cousin lol

[SmackinYaUp]

well i think its awesome that you took a shot in the 25/50 game, but what I reccommend is this: unless you can avoid individual players, don't sit at tables with those who are in books.

and tell krisqueen to get over here and give us some direction. it would be pretty sweet to have our own el d.

[arkana]

Possessed are you rich or did you build up a bankroll from scratch?

[PO$$E$$ED]

Possessed are you rich or did you build up a bankroll from scratch?

I built it from scratch. There's a thread on here where I talk about it. I definitely do not consider myself rich; I live frugally, don't have any assets beside my bankroll, and I don't buy expensive things.
And to SmackingYaUp- I sat down at this game because there was a player who was tilting hard. I misplayed my hand against Dags, but aside from that I felt I played decent, and that I benefited from the experience. Also, your advice about not sitting down at tables with people who are in the books is bunk. For example, Layne Flack is dead money when it comes to NL cash games online. I've personally taken about 5 dimes off him in one session, and I can tell you most of it was his fault. The players who are "in the books" are the players who have had success playing the big tourneys, and that doesn't necessarily mean they're any good at cash games.

[SmackinYaUp]

thats funny..i have heard that before but never had a chance to see for myself. so you staying at 25/50 for any length of time?

[PO$$E$$ED]

No, I've been playing mostly 5/10 at Bodog and Inter, some 10/20 at the latter.