Raped in Atlantic City ...

[LucifersGhost]

So, I went to Atlantic City this weekend with some friends for our not-so-regular-road tip. Was a total blast, except for my luck at the tables.

Entered 2 tourneys.... here are the results:

Tourney 1: $50+$15 buy in. 119 players. Finished 43rd.
Lost on:
Dealt: 8-8 on Big blind.
I check. Checks all around, to someone raising 3x BB. I call.
Flop comes 5-5-Q rainbow.
I check. 2 betters. 1 raise. Person who raised pre-flop goes all in. I was the short stack at the table so I call.
He flips over A-2.
Turn is a 3 or something not helpful to anyone.
River is an A.

grrrrr.

Tourney 2: $50+$15 buy in. 334 players. Finished 18th.
Lost on:
Dealt: A-A on again, big blind
I check. Checks all around, to someone raising 2x BB. I re-raise to 5X BB. Everyone folds except raiser who calls.
Flops comes: A-7-2
I check. He bets. I raise. He goes all in.
I have a pretty good read on this guy and I figured he was bluffing. I was right. He flips over 10-10. Im laughing.
Turn comes 10
River comes 10.

I felt like a cartoom who just got an anvil dropped on him .. and just before the anvil dropped, I got kicked in the nuts. I dont mind getting outplayed. I can learn from that. But this way? It bites. I keep 2nd guessing myself to see if I made mistakes. I dont think I did.

Ended up leaving AC 3 days later only down about $25 bucks. Won most of my money back playing 3-6 or 5-10 limit games.

Ah well. Better "LUCK" next year ...

LG

[Rondavu]

Wow that runner runner quad hand was brutal. I think I puked in my mouth a little after reading it. I knew it was a bad beat story as I read it. Then you said the flop came out A 7 2 giving you trip aces. Then I scratched my head for a split second thinking how can the other guy possibly beat that with two cards coming? He didn't even flop a god damn set and catch a one outer. He had to catch two friggin tens!

You must have had an obscene read on the 88 hand to challenge an all in. Other than that you had no business calling. His hand did suck though. Sorry you got porked.

[Theeggman]

I dont mind getting outplayed. I can learn from that. But this way? It bites.

I don't get it. I'm sure you don't want to get outplayed by a guy who re-re-raises all-in w/TT on a board of AXX. Be happy you didn't get outplayed by this guy, he's an idiot.

Bad beats are hard to take, but rest assured that you got a severe bad beat and you'll come out ahead 98% of the time in this situation. Better luck next time.

[Element187]

if it wasnt for weird occurences like the runner runner quad, the fish wouldnt play poker at all... they are true gamblers, they push in hoping to win.. slot machine poker .. in the long run you will come out ahead.

[LucifersGhost]

Wow that runner runner quad hand was brutal. I think I puked in my mouth a little after reading it. I knew it was a bad beat story as I read it. Then you said the flop came out A 7 2 giving you trip aces. Then I scratched my head for a split second thinking how can the other guy possibly beat that with two cards coming? He didn't even flop a god damn set and catch a one outer. He had to catch two friggin tens!

You must have had an obscene read on the 88 hand to challenge an all in. Other than that you had no business calling. His hand did suck though. Sorry you got porked.

I couldnt even puke in my mouth. My tummy was doing hula hoops around my ass lol

I didnt have an insane read on the 88 hand. But I was the short stack and already commited just about half my stack. At that point, I figured, with 2 pair, albeit low end ones, it isnt going to get much better. In the end, I made the right call, just lost to lady luck.

[Element187]

im really confused at the guy playing ace rag when he misses .. i see this at my home games alot. players will call monster raises on the flop with a wiffed ace rag hoping to catch their magical ace.

it makes it easy to earn chips from in the long run.

[LucifersGhost]

I dont mind getting outplayed. I can learn from that. But this way? It bites.

I don't get it. I'm sure you don't want to get outplayed by a guy who re-re-raises all-in w/TT on a board of AXX. Be happy you didn't get outplayed by this guy, he's an idiot.

Bad beats are hard to take, but rest assured that you got a severe bad beat and you'll come out ahead 98% of the time in this situation. Better luck next time.

No no .. I meant in a general sense. I dont mind losing to someone who outplayed me. But I cant stand the thought of losing to someone with a horse shoe so far up his arse that its coming out of his ear lol

I keep telling myself that and wont let it affect my future playing.

[LucifersGhost]

im really confused at the guy playing ace rag when he misses .. i see this at my home games alot. players will call monster raises on the flop with a wiffed ace rag hoping to catch their magical ace.

it makes it easy to earn chips from in the long run.

When I saw his pocket 10's with an A on the board, I immediately thought "either this guy is an idiot or he is just trying to steal the pot with a bluff." I think it was a mixture of both to be honest.

The craziest thing was, after I lost to him, I went over and shook his hand and said "Luckiest thing I have seen yet. Good luck and I hope you win the tourney." The guy sitting next to him was like "It wasnt that lucky. Your just sore cause you lost." I wanted to throw him through a window lol

[Element187]

im really confused at the guy playing ace rag when he misses .. i see this at my home games alot. players will call monster raises on the flop with a wiffed ace rag hoping to catch their magical ace.

it makes it easy to earn chips from in the long run.

When I saw his pocket 10's with an A on the board, I immediately thought "either this guy is an idiot or he is just trying to steal the pot with a bluff." I think it was a mixture of both to be honest.

The craziest thing was, after I lost to him, I went over and shook his hand and said "Luckiest thing I have seen yet. Good luck and I hope you win the tourney." The guy sitting next to him was like "It wasnt that lucky. Your just sore cause you lost." I wanted to throw him through a window lol

man that is funny.. if everyone in atlantic city thinks that, i gotta move there, sounds like easy money.

[Greedo017]

"I dont mind losing to someone who outplayed me. But I cant stand the thought of losing to someone with a horse shoe so far up his arse that its coming out of his ear"

That's funny, I'd say I feel the opposite way.

"It wasnt that lucky. Your just sore cause you lost."

You should've asked him, name something luckier than can happen.

[Bmxicle]

that rake makes me want to throw up.

[LucifersGhost]

"I dont mind losing to someone who outplayed me. But I cant stand the thought of losing to someone with a horse shoe so far up his arse that its coming out of his ear"

That's funny, I'd say I feel the opposite way.

Really? Why is that? Im curious!!

For me, if I get outplayed, I can learn from it. I obviously made a mistake and I can learn how to not do it again. This way, I KNOW I played right. I know I played well but I still lost. Thats frustrating. I realize this only happens 1 in what .. 1800 hands or something crazy like that and in the future I will hopefully not let this stop me from going in on hands I know I should win, but its sooo frustating.

[bair]

that sucks, my brother went to the tropicana in AC and had a huge ordeal. he was playin 2/4 NL and he went all in after the flop and a guy tried to muck his cards and it didnt make it to the muck. and the dealer goes "im tired of shit shit, thats a call." so he makes the guy call and he hits his gut draw and wins the pot. they gave my brother a shirt that says "checking is a sign of weakness" for his troubles.

[chris_1069]

that sucks, my brother went to the tropicana in AC and had a huge ordeal. he was playin 2/4 NL and he went all in after the flop and a guy tried to muck his cards and it didnt make it to the muck. and the dealer goes "im tired of shit shit, thats a call." so he makes the guy call and he hits his gut draw and wins the pot. they gave my brother a shirt that says "checking is a sign of weakness" for his troubles.

LOL ok now that was funny.

As for the AA hand that would really suck! Although I can see what Greedo is saying. If you get outplayed you might feel stupid for staying in the hand, not noticing his check-raise as major strength, or any number of things you actually did wrong. While in your AA hand you had the guy more than dominated! He was wraped in a leather cocoon with holes for his nose, ears, mouth, and ass for you to do with as you please and he somehow managed to break out of it when thoes 2 10's hit to take the pot. Sure it would suck.. alot.. especially knowing you should have won, and will win there almost every time heck even if he had hit a set on the flop he only had a 4% chance to hit the quads and in this case he needed runner runner... that's gotta be less than 1%! So you can be happy that in the future you will win here 99%+ of the time.

[DimitriT]

He was wraped in a leather cocoon with holes for his nose, ears, mouth, and ass for you to do with as you please

A little too visual for some of us here

[EricE]

He was wraped in a leather cocoon with holes for his nose, ears, mouth, and ass for you to do with as you please

A little too visual for some of us here

Ditto.

[SteveO]

You didn't lose your ass, you lost $25. Looks to me like you gained some ground and made back a good portion of your tournament buy-ins.

A lot of thos AC tournaments are a real crap shoot, designed to be over quick and feed the rings.

[Element187]

"I dont mind losing to someone who outplayed me. But I cant stand the thought of losing to someone with a horse shoe so far up his arse that its coming out of his ear"

That's funny, I'd say I feel the opposite way.

i agree.. feels like you been burned bad when someone out plays you .. you dont want to admit it.. you say "what a f**king fish" out loud to your computer monitor.

having an idiot get that lucky against (runner runner quads) just makes you shrug your shoulders and move on to the next hand.

i rather get sucked out on then out played, so much easier just to move on to the next hand.

[LucifersGhost]

He was wraped in a leather cocoon with holes for his nose, ears, mouth, and ass for you to do with as you please

A little too visual for some of us here

Ditto.

Sadly, it ended up that "I" was the one in the cocoon with a hole in my ass lol

Ya know .. for lack of a better visual :P

[LucifersGhost]

You didn't lose your ass, you lost $25. Looks to me like you gained some ground and made back a good portion of your tournament buy-ins.

A lot of thos AC tournaments are a real crap shoot, designed to be over quick and feed the rings.

I didnt lose $25, I lost $65 (50 buy in and 15 reg).

Thats not the point. I dont care if I lost $1 or $10000. Losing in THAT scenario sucks. Its not about the money. Its just the whole .. principal for lack of a better term.

I agree that I did recoup some of my ground with ring games. But again, it wasnt about the money. I mean, Im glad I didnt leave down over $100, but still.

I know that in the end, I was right and he got lucky. I know that the next 100 times I play that same hand, I will take it down.

Its just frustrating is all, yanno?

[PocketKings]

I think to be a good poker player, you've got to be like a good closer in baseball--mentally tough with a short term memory. By definition, a closer is only pitching late in the game when it's on the line and there's a good chance he can blow it. No matter how good you are, you're going to lose the game every now and then. You can only pitch so many scoreless innings.

Let's say an all-star closer blows a save in a cruicial game. The next game is just as important and it's a similar situation (late in the game, his team has a small lead.) Guess who's coming back in? Yup, the closer. He basically has to erase the previous game from his mind so it doesn't affect his performance this game. The good ones can do this cause they're mentally tough.

So a bad beat like you had is like a blown save. No matter how well you pitch, you're eventually gonna blow a save. No matter how well you play poker, you're eventually going to lose to a bad beat. Try to be like an all-star closer and have a short term memory.

[LucifersGhost]

I think to be a good poker player, you've got to be like a good closer in baseball--mentally tough with a short term memory. By definition, a closer is only pitching late in the game when it's on the line and there's a good chance he can blow it. No matter how good you are, you're going to lose the game every now and then. You can only pitch so many scoreless innings.

Let's say an all-star closer blows a save in a cruicial game. The next game is just as important and it's a similar situation (late in the game, his team has a small lead.) Guess who's coming back in? Yup, the closer. He basically has to erase the previous game from his mind so it doesn't affect his performance this game. The good ones can do this cause they're mentally tough.

So a bad beat like you had is like a blown save. No matter how well you pitch, you're eventually gonna blow a save. No matter how well you play poker, you're eventually going to lose to a bad beat. Try to be like an all-star closer and have a short term memory.

Wow, thats a great analogy actually. Great call Pocket!!

All my friends kept telling me was "oh man suck it up. No biggie." They arent much for motivational speaking. Can ya tell? :P

[AcesInTheHole]

You should be happy though man.... you got that disgustingly bad beat out of the way... I know for myself I get those once every blue moon... so when it does come, I won't be seeing one for a good while... sucks that it had to be in a tournament... At least you know you played it right...

[midas06]

I would actually throw a tantrum if I saw 10 10 come up like that. That would suck

[JeffreyGB]

"I dont mind losing to someone who outplayed me. But I cant stand the thought of losing to someone with a horse shoe so far up his arse that its coming out of his ear"

That's funny, I'd say I feel the opposite way.

"It wasnt that lucky. Your just sore cause you lost."

You should've asked him, name something luckier than can happen.

I've got this one covered...QJs winning against AKs (diff suit) on a board of AAK (one of his suit). Runner runner KTs giving him the royal to beat my aces over kings.

[CrunchyNuts]

The chances of hitting the runner runner royal and runner runner quads are exactly the same, you need two specific cards to both come up and order doesn't matter.

[JeffreyGB]

The chances of hitting the runner runner royal and runner runner quads are exactly the same, you need two specific cards to both come up and order doesn't matter.

Harder to beat a boat than a set, however. I guess those two examples were equally unlikely post flop, but there are more ways for a set to lose runner runner than an As over Ks boat.

[DoGGz]

"I dont mind losing to someone who outplayed me. But I cant stand the thought of losing to someone with a horse shoe so far up his arse that its coming out of his ear"

That's funny, I'd say I feel the opposite way.

"It wasnt that lucky. Your just sore cause you lost."

You should've asked him, name something luckier than can happen.

I've got this one covered...QJs winning against AKs (diff suit) on a board of AAK (one of his suit). Runner runner KTs giving him the royal to beat my aces over kings.

Exact same odds. Both have it go Perfect Perfect to win

981 to 1 is it?

Well, if there weren't bad beats, fish wouldn't play. I'd say it's this that makes professional poker players earn more than other professionals. Professional goe players in Japan live off of teaching other players! (The majority, that is, not including the best players who win titles)

Plus, bad beat stories suck. It can't get worse than perfect-perfect and after you heard one of those, you just shrug off anything else or similar stories.

[Greedo017]

didn't check this thread for forever. Yea, my reason i'd rather get sucked out on than outplayed, is because even if it bugs me badly that someone just got lucky, i know immediately that i was right and they were wrong. But i am an arrogant ahole and i want to be the best, and if someone outplays me i have to sit and find reasons why i was right and it was actually their fault, no matter how badly i messed up, and i'd rather just know right off it was their fault.

and, the absolute lowest % thing that can happen is needing 2 cards, one of the turn, one on the river, it can make anything, or well it can make quads, straight flush, or a royal flush, all are like about 1000 to 1.

[jmontis]

$50+15 rake.. highway robbery.