Your line? 10/20 NL

[ilikeaces86]

***** Hand History for Game 2270873006 *****
$2000 NL Hold'em - Monday, June 27, 07:05:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 51965 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: david31622 ( $2743 )
Seat 2: bleu329 ( $2179 )
Seat 3: IBangHoes ( $530.5 )
Seat 5: goldengerman ( $3115.5 )
Seat 6: hotmark777 ( $2077 )
Seat 8: dangerwr ( $2783 )
Seat 10: hazards21 ( $7180 )
Seat 9: Extratopping ( $1930 )
Seat 7: StuDaKid ( $2054 )
Seat 4: producerasia ( $530 )
hazards21 posts small blind [$10].
david31622 posts big blind [$20].
dangerwr posts big blind + dead [$30].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Extratopping [ Ac As ]
bleu329 folds.
IBangHoes calls [$20].
producerasia calls [$20].
goldengerman folds.
hotmark777 raises [$90].
StuDaKid folds.
dangerwr calls [$70].
Extratopping raises [$400].
hazards21 folds.
david31622 folds.
IBangHoes folds.
producerasia folds.
hotmark777 folds.
>You have options at Table 52029 Table!.
dangerwr folds.
Extratopping does not show cards.
Extratopping wins $660

Think 300 would of been a better line?

[DoGGz]

I'd play it just like that. You took down 260$ no contest

[spino1i]

Note that you have position on the other two guys. When you have position I believe you dont have to re-raise as hard and try to chase them out of the hand pre-flop with AA, since you can afford to see a flop with them and you wont get in too much trouble with position.

I would have raised to 300$ instead of 400$.

[drmcboy]

I think if you had gone 300 you're risking a 4-5 way pot. I like 400.
IBangHoes calls [$20].
producerasia calls [$20].

these two scare me. If either call then the two with 90 in are getting great odds, but are probably too spooked to re raise. Even 3 way AA I'm not wild about, and you have to think both are calling there. Better to win a small pot...

[a500lbgorilla]

***** Hand History for Game 2270873006 *****
$2000 NL Hold'em - Monday, June 27, 07:05:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 51965 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: david31622 ( $2743 )
Seat 2: bleu329 ( $2179 )
Seat 3: IBangHoes ( $530.5 )
Seat 5: goldengerman ( $3115.5 )
Seat 6: hotmark777 ( $2077 )
Seat 8: dangerwr ( $2783 )
Seat 10: hazards21 ( $7180 )
Seat 9: Extratopping ( $1930 )
Seat 7: StuDaKid ( $2054 )
Seat 4: producerasia ( $530 )
hazards21 posts small blind [$10].
david31622 posts big blind [$20].
dangerwr posts big blind + dead [$30].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Extratopping [ Ac As ]
bleu329 folds.
IBangHoes calls [$20].
producerasia calls [$20].
goldengerman folds.
hotmark777 raises [$90].
StuDaKid folds.
dangerwr calls [$70].
Extratopping raises [$400].
hazards21 folds.
david31622 folds.
IBangHoes folds.
producerasia folds.
hotmark777 folds.
>You have options at Table 52029 Table!.
dangerwr folds.
Extratopping does not show cards.
Extratopping wins $660

Think 300 would of been a better line?

I have a small side-bar question. To what minimum ammount should you reraise so that you're commit to any flop and it will always +EV. I mean, you raise to X% of your or his stack and no matter if he out flops you or not, it'll be +EV for you.

-'rilla

[spino1i]

I have a small side-bar question. To what minimum ammount should you reraise so that you're commit to any flop and it will always +EV. I mean, you raise to X% of your or his stack and no matter if he out flops you or not, it'll be +EV for you.

-'rilla

Well its not quite as simple as that 'rilla, because it depends HOW he outflops ilikeaces. If he outflops him in an obvious way (i.e. 3-suited board turns to a 4-suited board on the turn of a suit he has that ilikeaces doesnt), or an unobvious way (i.e. he called with 45s and the board came A23).

Obviously in one situation ilikeaces might lose his whole stack whereas the other its an easy lay down. Plus ilikeaces has position here which is important to keep in mind.

[a500lbgorilla]

I have a small side-bar question. To what minimum ammount should you reraise so that you're commit to any flop and it will always +EV. I mean, you raise to X% of your or his stack and no matter if he out flops you or not, it'll be +EV for you.

-'rilla

Well its not quite as simple as that 'rilla, because it depends HOW he outflops ilikeaces. If he outflops him in an obvious way (i.e. 3-suited board turns to a 4-suited board on the turn of a suit he has that ilikeaces doesnt), or an unobvious way (i.e. he called with 45s and the board came A23).

Obviously in one situation ilikeaces might lose his whole stack whereas the other its an easy lay down. Plus ilikeaces has position here which is important to keep in mind.

I think this is a thread all to itself. To HE Strats we go!

-'rilla

[Sed]

I like a raise of 350$... That will get rid of the limpers and make it $260 for the call into a 610$ pot which just might be enticing enough for one of the previous 90$ callers....

- sed

[Grand_MasterB]

$400 raise was right... any less you risk one of the early limpers calling then everyone else coming in to get the pot odds.

[kizzit]

i make the $300-$400 reraise. in MY opinion AA does'nt usually hold up online, even when all the money is in pot b4 flop. i know this sounds like a conspiracy theory but pay attention to hands histories. sure sometimes people get married to AA and should lay down, but i'm including times when the money is in preflop like i said. then again maybe i'm just bitter about dropping $2k with my AA vs QQ all money in preflop and Q on flop the other day. but i prefer to just take it down without a flop