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    Default First orbit... did I do anything wrong??

    Hand #1 - I was gonna fold the turn but figured I'll show to show I don't raise with crap. Now with no read is the fold the right play here (which is what I wanted to do) - or do you still advocate the call to the end? This time with no reraise I was positive one of them had the K.

    Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
    UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

    Flop: (10 SB) 4, 9, K (5 players)
    SB bets $3 (All-In), BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

    Turn: (9.50 BB) K (5 players, 1 all-in)
    BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

    River: (11.50 BB) 3 (3 players, 1 all-in)
    UTG bets, Hero calls.

    Final Pot: 13.50 BB

    Hand 2
    Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K. MP2 posts a blind of $3.
    Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

    Flop: (9.33 SB) 5, 2, 2 (4 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button calls, BB calls.

    Turn: (6.66 BB) T (4 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

    River: (6.66 BB) 8 (4 players)
    BB bets, Hero folds, MP1 calls, Button folds.

    Final Pot: 8.66 BB

    Hand 3
    Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T, T.
    6 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, SB calls.

    Flop: (4 SB) 6, A, 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

    Turn: (3 BB) A (2 players)
    SB bets, Hero calls.

    River: (5 BB) 3 (2 players)
    SB bets, Hero calls.

    Final Pot: 7 BB

    Hand 4
    Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 9.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

    Flop: (9 SB) T, J, 4 (4 players)
    SB bets, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls.

    Turn: (6 BB) Q (3 players)
    SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

    River: (9 BB) 7 (3 players)
    SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: 11 BB

    Hand 5
    Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, J.
    4 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls.

    Flop: (5.33 SB) A, K, J (2 players)
    MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds.

    Final Pot: 3.16 BB

    Hand 6
    Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9, K.
    UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

    Flop: (5.33 SB) J, 4, Q (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, CO folds, BB folds.

    Turn: (4.16 BB) 7 (3 players)
    UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

    River: (4.16 BB) A (3 players)
    UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: 6.16 BB
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    At 3/6 people bluff a lot less than at 2/4 and in my experience often less than at 5/10. Save yourself some money if you have no read trust that they have what they are representing most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayce
    At 3/6 people bluff a lot less than at 2/4 and in my experience often less than at 5/10. Save yourself some money if you have no read trust that they have what they are representing most of the time.
    You must be on drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayce
    At 3/6 people bluff a lot less than at 2/4 and in my experience often less than at 5/10. Save yourself some money if you have no read trust that they have what they are representing most of the time.
    You must be on drugs.
    i would have to agree with fnord on this one...
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    Crack, got to be. Mmmm, peanut butter and crack sandwiches.

    And please use the converter next time.


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    Sorry about the converter. Didn't use it cuz I didn't have time to go through and change all the : to =. My computer is slow so playing two games at once and posting that was hard enough. But gotta agree about the drugs.

    Now 5 max 10/20 on the other hand on paradise, is basically just a bluff fest - I'm still unsure what the theory is at that game, but damn people protect their blinds as if they were that last hit of junkie's smack.
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    Ok it's been edited with the converter.

    Am I correct that my mistake in all of these was not looking at the pot when I was chasing? Hands 4 and 6 especially - fold on flop was the right move??

    Or 7-8 outs ok to call the flop and try to get my K T or club (to go for runner runner) on hand 6?
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    Hand 2: Bet the turn
    Hand 4: fold the flop, between the draws and 2 overcards you will get beat by SB or UTG+1 at showdown too often. Also, consider that you're drawing to the sucker one-off broadway straight. A great hand to pay someone off with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayce
    At 3/6 people bluff a lot less than at 2/4 and in my experience often less than at 5/10. Save yourself some money if you have no read trust that they have what they are representing most of the time.
    You must be on drugs.
    i second that.

    when i play 3/6, i call down with middle pair alot and win. its mecca for bluffing.
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    Yeah hand 4 was dumb - I was tilting/forgetting I wasn't at a 5 player max table.

    Hand 2 - why bet the turn? 6 outs not bad/maybe winning hand? If I bet out do i fold to a raise? If I just get called do I bet an empty river as well?

    Hand 6 - ok how I played or too loose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian
    Hand 2 - why bet the turn? 6 outs not bad/maybe winning hand? If I bet out do i fold to a raise? If I just get called do I bet an empty river as well?
    You might have the best hand, they might fold and you might catch up. The union of those says bet and fold to a raise.

    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian
    Hand 6 - ok how I played or too loose?
    The pre-flop call is a little loose, but I gave up being a pre-flop Nazi long ago. It really depends on how well you think you play compared to the lemmings. Post-flop the flop call is kinda loose, but the backdoor flush + over gives you enough extra to make it. Meh.

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