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    Default Thought: FTR Guided book discussion

    This is just an idea I'm kicking around, and I thought I'd post it in here and see if anyone would be interested. I posted it here in the beginner's forum as I think newer players would get the most out of it, but I think all of us can occasionally use a refresher course.

    Here's my thought: I would pick a Poker book (or we could vote on a book.) We would then all get that book (those interested, anyway.) We would all then take said book, and read one chapter a week. I would moderate and guide a discussion on it. I mean, some of it would be sickeningly repetitive for experienced players, but it would give us some very detailed thoughts and analyses on poker strategies... really delving into them. We could all post hand histories relating to that topic, and every week I would write up an analysis of that chapter in a sound bite format that everyone could print up and look at for quick reference. I would also scour the forums for related posts to the topic, and compile a compendium of some of the best threads.

    This would probably get cumbersome inside of any given forum, and may be best segmented off into it's own forum. I'd probably have to beg the powers that be or offer sexual favors to get that done, but I think that for the right cause it would be good. I mean, this would be a very topical and targeted forum... so it would have to be strictly moderated.

    I think this would be an awesome way to make sure that you're getting every penny of value out of your books. Some of these books have errors, too... so it would be good to eliminate any misconceptions...

    I don't know... I'm just throwing an idea out there. Would anyone be interested in this kind of strongly guided discussion. If there's sufficient interest, I'll take it to the powers that be, and see what I can get done.

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    I was actually going to make a post asking about this after seeing it done on 2+2. with SSH. I think 1 chapter a week may be a little slow, but we have no need to hammer out these details until people have agreed to do it. I would like to be involved with this depending on the book, but yea, most likely I would partake in this and Im sure others would as well.
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    I think one chapter a week is slow, certainly. We could maybe do two. I think any more than that, and we're missing the point of extracting max value. it's just an idea. I would theoretically guide the discussion, but Others could step in as well. I'd welcome any contributors and help. Hope to see more interest here.

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    I'll make tea.
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    I think its an awsome idea. It would need to be very strictly moderated to keep it spam free, but the hand history/strategy sections arent all that spammed up so it shouldnt be a problem.
    Id certainly be interested.
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    Can someone link me to where this is being done at 2+2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianti
    Can someone link me to where this is being done at 2+2?
    Here is the current week (week 4). The previous weeks are also linked at the top.

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    Bah. We can do it better than them.

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    I don't doubt that. I just wanted to see what it's about.
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    Sounds like a good idea. I'm down.

    Honestly, I like the 1 chapter per week. Gives me time to deal with life, still play poker, and not fall behind. In the end that would enable me to actually keep up on it rather than let it fall by the wayside when things get hectic.
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    Sounds like an awesome idea count me in.
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    Screw oprah's book club.

    The ftr one sounds much mo bettah!
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    1 chapter a week is good. You don't even need to budget time for that, you can just read on the crapper.
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    I'm from Ohio so I may need help with some of the big words...but I'm in.
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    Which book?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatMeBad
    I'm from Ohio so I may need help with some of the big words...but I'm in.
    I'll speak slowly. And use small words.

    Since I'm from Ohio, that's all I know, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midas06
    Which book?
    Good question. I'll make like, a poll or something. I've got some PM's into the the X-man working out some details. I'd like to get this up and running by next week sometime.

    I'm thinking Theory of Poker would be a good place to start, since it has application to all sorts of games, and would give a nice basis for other topics, but I'll leave it to the masses.

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    Theory of Poker gets my vote.

    Ive been meaning to reread it for a little while.
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    lol is it bad if I vote for Theory of Poker just cause I've been too busy and lazy to read my own copy since I got it two months ago?

    *ashamed*
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    What an awesome idea. I'm very keen, please count me in. Theory of Poker sounds good for starters, I'd vote for Harrington on Holdem Vol I as a second option.

    Edit: I also think one chapter a week ... one becuase I'd hate to see a really useful discussion cut short becuase we had to move on to the next chapter, and two - as mentioned above with work, family, life (and playing poker!) I think one a week is enough
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    Someone ship me a copy of ToP and I'll be down for that

    EDIT: PM me if someone knows of a free version of a eBook version of ToP. ty
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    HOH would get my vost as best choice.. it's probally the single biggest help to my game out of all the books I've read.

    Edit: Not that i'd complain about theory of poker being chosen.

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    I'd say Theory of Poker.

    But that just cause I already got it
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    I'd vote HOH1 followed by HOH2, but that's just because I need to reread them anyway. As long as they are both high on the list, I'm happy.
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    Count me in, great idea.

    I'll bring the bacon.

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    nice idea, i'm in.

    I think HOH1 would be a good choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublethe7
    I think HOH1 would be a good choice.
    HOH1 gets my vote too. I just finished reading. I read it in about a week so it was like drinking from a fire hose. It would be good to go through it again especially in a moderated and discussion based fashion. Count me in.
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    The problem with HOH1 is it's SO readable, accessible and accurate that there'd be little to actually discuss!
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    Ok... I've talked it over briefly with some folks, and it looks like this is a go. I've been asked to wait until some things happen behind the scenes, but it tentatively looks like it's going to happen and get its own Forum. I'm going to spend the intervening time laying out a format for the weekly discussion, but that's going to vary depending on what book we choose. I'll be posting a poll in a couple minutes to see which book you wanted to start with. I think I'm going to only limit the options to Theory and HOH 1, as they seem to be the popular choices. I'll leave the poll up thru Saturday to see what the general feel is. I'll have a tentative format out early next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biondino
    The problem with HOH1 is it's SO readable, accessible and accurate that there'd be little to actually discuss!
    I agree.

    ToP however is a right pig to read. I love poker books and read them just for the fun of it, but ToP is NOT a fun read.

    That's why it would get my vote... because i didn't read it "well enough"
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    This is a really good idea cause I hate reading so it will be better to see it discussed also. I have like 3 poker books I got months ago that I havent started to read.
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    This is so weird because I was readying HOH1 on the metro on the way to work and I was thinkin we should do this too, weirdddddd
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    Hi. This book club sounds like a great idea and I'd like to take part.

    This is my first post on the forums. I got started with online poker earlier this year, having only played a couple of home games before that. I've found myself enjoying poker and very much would like to improve. Two weeks ago I got thrown out from the beginners section at Party and moved up to NL25, which so far (15k hands) I've been beating comfortably.

    My learning experience has consisted of reading this forum, online articles, and of course playing. I've found following this forum to be very rewarding so thanks to everyone whos taken part in the constructive discussions that I've stumbled across and learned from. Now I'd like to take a more active part in the forum myself.
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    Ill take part.
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    I am reading TOP at the moment...so it gets my vote.
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    Great idea!

    would be good to know in advance which book we'll be discussing so we have time to get off our asses and buy it.
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    It's looking very much like I'll be focusing on Theory of Poker first, unless there's a swing in voting today. I'll announce this evening officially.

    Glad there's so much interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed
    Hi. This book club sounds like a great idea and I'd like to take part.

    This is my first post on the forums. I got started with online poker earlier this year, having only played a couple of home games before that. I've found myself enjoying poker and very much would like to improve. Two weeks ago I got thrown out from the beginners section at Party and moved up to NL25, which so far (15k hands) I've been beating comfortably.

    My learning experience has consisted of reading this forum, online articles, and of course playing. I've found following this forum to be very rewarding so thanks to everyone whos taken part in the constructive discussions that I've stumbled across and learned from. Now I'd like to take a more active part in the forum myself.
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    I pick TOP because it'll give me reason to go buy it now, instead of wasting my money on another deposit at pokerstars. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
    I pick TOP because it'll give me reason to go buy it now, instead of wasting my money on another deposit at pokerstars. lol
    Well, it is going to be Theory... so go ahead and grab it.

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    Im down...
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    Just gotta get the damn book, when do we begin...
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    wow your sig is big
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    I'm definitely in. When will you be starting this F500? I'll order it up from Amazon tomorrow morning.
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    A few people are waiting on the book, and I'm still getting things together. I'd tentatively planned on starting today, but I'll definitely have it running by April 10th. One week from the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune 500
    A few people are waiting on the book, and I'm still getting things together. I'd tentatively planned on starting today, but I'll definitely have it running by April 10th. One week from the day.
    Cool, so read chapt 1 and 2 by the 10th?
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    I shall participate
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    I read ToP a while back and thought it was the single most influential piece of lit ive read
    Im in. Id like to see what others think on its ideas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune 500
    A few people are waiting on the book, and I'm still getting things together. I'd tentatively planned on starting today, but I'll definitely have it running by April 10th. One week from the day.
    How did I miss this? OH, it was in the beginner thread. Wait a minute, that's me - a beginner. How did I miss this?

    Damnit, behind in homework AGAIN!!! I am off to the bookstore to get it.

    Is the discussion going to be in this thread or are you going to start a new one?
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    Any updates on this?
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    I will be creating a new forum, FTR Book Club, that will be moderated by Fortune 500. I'm going out for the rest of the day. I should have it set up by tonight or tomorrow.

    This is a new forum type for us, and we're all excited to see how it develops.
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    im in
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    As X said, I'm just waiting for the Forum. I will spend this evening (or whenever he gets it up) getting things in order, and we'll be off and running. Probably be tomorrow before we're in full swing.

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    I went and picked up TOP last night. Read the first couple chapters, ready to go.
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    Forum is ready.
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    Leaving right now to get the book.

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