river the nuts! how does I get the value

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG ($3.35)
UTG+1 ($10.15)
MP1 ($8)
MP2 ($2.50)
kicKAss (CO) ($10)
BTN ($15.23)
SB ($10.44)
BB ($4.04)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 8 players) kicKAss is CO
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, kicKAss raises to $0.40, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, kicKAss checks

Turn: ($0.95, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.50, kicKAss calls $0.50

River: ($1.95, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.90, $0.9 to kicKAss ($9.1)?

villain is 18/3 over 60. 18% is like all pairs all suited As A9o+ and all broadways -KTo QTo JTo which seems about right for this guy
cant rep shit on flop he will never fold any how
i think he bets all PP say 22-JJ all his 9s and A2s-A5s. dunno what he does with his air (broadways and the like). he may well take a small stab like this sometimes.
river BINGO. whats a good size?


CAN SOMEONE WITH POWERS MOVE THIS TO THE BC OR DELETE IT, IM RETARDED

{moved from blogs}

thank you

I would raise the turn to like a buck fiddy.

as played, iunno like tree-tree fiddy?

I don't like raising the turn since we didn't cbet flop. We probably don't have the best hand, but we have position and good odds, just call.

As played raise to $4

Bet the flop

as played raise the turn.

Originally Posted by caddie444

I don't like raising the turn since we didn't cbet flop.

We don't rep much value but we don't have to because villain can't read hands.

Really dry flop, by raising turn we're repping sets and we have great equity when villain continues, also when he does continue his range has soooo many flush draws and the pot is bigger so it's much easier to get him in on the river when we bink, especially since he'll think his flush is good against perceived set when he has a fucked flush.

I'm happy to check behind on flop since I doubt he folds many hands we lose to, we can bet a lot of turns like A, J, Q, K, + club to fold out his crappy pairs, raise this turn to $1.50, as played raise river to something like $3.75 and expect folds a lot of the time. If we raise turn and he calls, we can shove river and expect calls a lot of the time.

Stove up the range you've given him (which is way to strong imo) and you'll see that not cbetting this flop is a mistake.

Thread title should be changed because who the hell cares how you extract value with the nuts. Focus on the mistakes by not betting earlier in the hand.

Cbetting vs. tight-passive limp-callers is standard. Raising with huge equity and poor showdown value is also standard.

i cbet this flop for sure. two overs + BDFD + fold equity. go for it. as played i kind of want to to raise the turn. though calling is never a mistake as such. as played on river i'm making it something around $3

Everything Baudib said. (Never written your name before, now my inner voice is obliged to try to pronounce it, feels weird)

ful title: river the nuts how does i get the value as I played hand like a pussy.

I'm almost tempted to shove the way you've played it. Might get looked up by all sorts, bit excessive though. Prob betting about 3.50.

Holy fuck, way too many posts mention "we don't rep something". Who gives a fuck when villains can't handread. Do you people seriously try to rep something every hand you play v people just clicking buttons?

Definitely cbet flop. Definitely raise the turn, now you should kick a cat and raise to 4.4.

I think you need to cbet here, he'll fold stuff like 44/33 and overs that beat you (no bad thing) + having the backdoor nut flush draw + 2 overs means it doesn't have to work as often. We can also bet the turn sometimes.

On the river just make it big ($3.50-$4), sets and flushes always call and stuff like 9x/88 etc rarely calls.

lol the flop and turn aren't all that bad, certainly don't warrant the responses ITT

Flop is a pretty standard c-bet since the board is so damn dry.

As played, I like the turn call.

Originally Posted by baudib

Thread title should be changed because who the hell cares how you extract value with the nuts. Focus on the mistakes by not betting earlier in the hand.

Cbetting vs. tight-passive limp-callers is standard. Raising with huge equity and poor showdown value is also standard.

Imma just +1 this and be on my way.

bet flop