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    That's a good read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    ... but you gotta remember that AKo is just like ANY other drawing hand. Just 'cause it's got an A don't mean you got a hand that'll go to the river.
    It's not helpful to think about a hand or range as 'made' or 'drawing'. It's better to think about it in terms of equity and playability against another range. - 'drawing' hands have a pretty linear amount of equity. A 'made' hand's equity is all over the place depending on what part of your opponents range you're looking at.
    When you look at the hand and try to decide wether to 3b pre you have to disect the ranges a bit.
    Let's say the pfr opens 7% or 106 combos, so 66+=53 AK,AQ,AJ = 48 ATs,KQs=8 - close enough. If you just call you get the fish along with all broadways and a bunch of other stuff. If you 3b you'll probably get called by 66+AK - not because it's reasonable but because it's microstakes, and you'll get him to play pretty fit or fold. etcetc. this is how you should think about the hand. Write out ranges. Do ridiculously simplified EV calculations just to get a feeling for it. It's not so much about getting a result but about learning how to think about a game with limited information.

    In isolation I much prefer a 3b against the nit because you force more mistakes by 3-betting most of the time. How the fishes ranges change after a 3b or a call is what will swing the decision to 3b pre.
    You can spend a lot of time analyzing that spot but it's not a great place to start learning about poker cos preflop is simply the hardest street to play correctly... by far.

    I don't care much about preflop - you can do whatever imo, but I would definitely 3b to 3x or even smaller.
    On the flop I like the way you think. This is almost always and underpair to the JJx and rarely anything else. How you continue in the hand depends largely on what you think of him. You can credibly represent JJ+ by calling and raising a small bet on the turn or betting big when checked to if you think he's capable of folding.
    I'm a huge advocate of making potentially -EV plays at micro limits just to see what they will do, so I like call and then do whatever. You'll prolly get stacked by 88, but then at least you have learned something and it wasn't too expensive.
    Last edited by oskar; 04-23-2011 at 09:57 PM.

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