Luck is two things:

-- the random application of probability over an infinite amount of time/chances/hands/etc.

-- a pain in the arse.

But let's face it: there's no more luck in the draw in poker than there is in spades, hearts, bridge, or cribbage. The only difference is that money is involved.

When was the last time you heard people moaning about how unlucky they are in spades?
Thats a great point by the way. Just so you don't think I was complaining about luck the reason I started this post to possibly help settle a disagreement between and it only helped provide info for both sides and were still at a stale mate..............LOL