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This has gotten a bit out of hand, but I'll contribute some perspective. First, I like what Sarbox said:
 Originally Posted by sarbox68
IMHO the order of things that usually works best is as follows:
1. Ask questions
2. STFU and listen to the answers
3. Think about the answers and implement
4. Improve and repeat
5. Show real non-"my ass just got lucky for a month" results
6. Make $
and finally...
7. Give advice
It reminded me of Robb's 400th Post.
 Originally Posted by Robb
When I was a losing player, I was arrogant. I thought these things about my game:
1. The rake is too high - I' m beating this game, just not enough to beat the rake.
2. The fish are schooling on me - I'd be better off at NL100 where they fold their crap. I could win up there.
3. I' m smart. I' m a math professor. I understand probability and game theory. Opp's are total morons. I should be killing this game.
4. I know more than these FTR idiots.
5. When I win, it's me playing like Johnny Chan. When I lose, it's bad luck.
God and FTR regs forgive me for my first 50 posts.
I got Rakeback to help with #1 which was partly true. I got active on FTR to help fix #3 and make it mostly true, admitting that #4 was just plain conceit and idiocy.
We all think differently about FTR and poker after we've been here a few months. That's why we're here. Anyone willing to listen to advice will get better - fast. Most everyone else is simply a dollars donor to the poker economy.
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