[quote="Lukie"]
Quote Originally Posted by Kiriath
Take this example. Hero and Villain both start with 100 BB stacks. Hero has KK, Villain has AA. Hero raises to 4xBB. Villain raises to 14xBB. Hero raises to 40xBB. Villain pushes all-in. Let's also say that 2 people called hero's original 4xBB raise, the blinds folded, and those callers folded to hero's rereraise. There is 10xBB. You have put 40xBB in the pot. Villain's 100BB stack is in the pot. Pot size = 150BB. You have to call 60BB. The above^^ is a very realistic situation. You have to call 60BB into a 150BB pot. You are getting 2.5:1 on your money. KK vs AA is slightly worse then 1:4. Even if your opponent shows you aces, and you still call, it is not even close to being as bad of a call as you would think.
Yes math says you have to call, but thats cause you made a play that pot commited you to call with any hand if he pushes AKA a bad play.

"Hero raises to 4xBB. Villain re-raises to 14xBB. HERO RE-RE-RAISES to 40xBB."

You dont wanna analyse the advantages/disadvantages of that play with KK...

Take this example. Hero and Villain both start with 100 BB stacks. Hero has KK, Villain has AA. Hero raises to 4xBB. Villain raises to 14xBB. Hero calls.
Flop has a K. Hero checks. Villain bets 20BB , hero calls. Hero checks they turn, Villain bets once more and gets pott commited and therefore destacked.


Or take this one. Hero and Villain both start with 100 BB stacks. Hero has KK, Villain has AA. Hero raises to 4xBB. Villain raises to 14xBB. Hero calls.
Flop is rags. Hero checks. Villain bets 20BB. Hero raises to 40BB. Villain calls/pushes. Hero is 100% sure his KK is beat and is done with the hand.


Or take this one. Hero and Villain both start with 100 BB stacks. Hero has KK, Villain has AA. Hero raises to 4xBB. Villain raises to 14xBB. Hero re-re-raises to 25BB. Villain pushes. Hero is done with the hand.
Villain calls. Hero is really hoping for a K high flop.