Quote Originally Posted by Laeelin
Ya'll are talking about diffrent things..

Preflop all in with AA is always +EV on a HAND.

But it can be a -EV call overall for a skilled player, in a situation that has you risking to much of your bankroll (or chips in a SnG/MTT).

In other words, Phil Ivey would be stupid to call with AA on the first hand of a MTT after 3 other players are all in...

He can either risk everything in hopes of a coin flip landing his way, or he can use his skill and pick up thoes 3k chips later that day.

In that situation calling would be -EV! (only because it's risking everything on a coinflip, when you have the skill to win without risking a coinflip.)
But if you win, (Which you have the best odds to do), you have a 40k stack to bully the rest of the players with. You can catch garbage for the next 24 hours and have an average stack by the end of it.

And in terms of someone like Phil Ivey, he stands to make more with a large stack than an average.

And if you're considering the 10k buyin on the first hand when it's a question of getting your money in good, you shouldn't be there... You should get the f*$k back to your $5 buyin home game and get owned by all the decent players because you can't play a single hand except for aces on the button when it's folded round to you.