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    Default to c-bet or no? a few simple hands

    a few pretty standard seeming "c-bet??" spots.
    thoughts?

    hand 1
    my image is active. Button is 18-15-7 (vpip-pfr-3b) over decent sample. He has low fold to flop c-bet 43% and fold to turn cbet 33%, low raise flop c-bet 5%, high bet vs missed c-bet 80%. I c-bet just over 55% and he has be as 18-14-4. Cbet? plan? sizing?


    MP2 ($20.20)
    MP3 ($66.65)
    CO ($19.25)
    Button ($50)
    SB ($50)
    BB ($164)
    UTG ($23.05)
    Hero (UTG+1) ($50.90)
    MP1 ($43.50)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, K
    1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 4 folds, Button

    calls $1.75, 2 folds

    Flop: ($4.25) 2, 4, 7 (2 players)
    hero??

    hand 2
    villain here is solid 3+ptBB winner south american pro. Beats 100nl as well. 20-15-4 with 65% fold to flop cbet and 50% fold to turn cbet, 7% raise flop turn c-bet, doesn't check-raise much at all.


    MP1 ($21.15)
    MP2 ($53.50)
    CO ($15.60)
    Button ($70.05)
    SB ($369.95)
    BB ($55.85)
    UTG ($18.50)
    Hero (UTG+1) ($84.50)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 5, 5
    1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 5 folds, BB calls $1.25

    Flop: ($3.75) 4, 2, 10 (2 players)
    BB checks, hero??


    hand 3
    villain is unknown likely aggro-fish 50-30 over 20 hands. No real info. He hadn't faced a c-bet from anyone before this hand was played.

    BB ($27.95)
    UTG ($55.40)
    UTG+1 ($67.05)
    MP1 ($50)
    MP2 ($51.30)
    MP3 ($25.50)
    Hero (CO) ($50)
    Button ($50)
    SB ($54.70)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 10
    5 folds, Hero bets $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1

    Flop: ($3.25) Q, 5, 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, hero??


    edit: for those who are unsure about some stats i refer to
    re bets vs missed c-bets:
    ok - imagine you are on the button and call an UTG raise. They check the flop, you bet. This is you betting vs a missed c-bet. Say you bet every time you call ip pre-flop and are checked to on the flop - your 'bet vs missed c-bet' is 100%. It's on my hud pop-up extension under the various c-bet stats i have on my basic huh (= flop cbet, turn cbet, fold vs flop c-bet, fold vs turn c-bet). It's interesting. Especially if you like check-raising. Or if you like identifying monkey-checked-to types
    Last edited by daven; 12-07-2011 at 04:55 PM.

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