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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Originally Posted by iolzizlyi
sorry dude didn't mean to be the straw. but i had to find out whether it was cool to go ahead and move up or not. if it makes you feel any better (not that you really care either way) i am going to stick with the grind until i hit the $250 mark and then i'll take stabs at 10NL. anyways i def appreciate you posting your advice even though it obv pains you. and that goes for everyone else too.
Don't feel bad, there's been tons of people who follow the description before you.
And to be honest, it wasn't your post that sparked this =P
I don't know what sparked this, but I've enjoyed this discussion and referred a couple of other posts to this one and the previous one it launched from. Spoon, I wanted to add two things.
First, I've got friends who think nothing of spending $500 on golf. Great, it's a hobby you enjoy. Poker is different - it's a hobby that we can expect to be revenue neutral and which, if we just employ a bit of discipline, we can actually make money with. A hobby that not only pays for itself, but pays back extra. Dayam, that's cool. Participate if you'd like. If not, donate to those of us who are.
Second, a lot of us lack the "pro" mentality. I've enjoyed your posts about your win rate, level, and goals for 2008. I got inspired and set some goals for 2008 as well ($100 in profit + $100 additional br each month). But I have this dangerous way of looking at sessions.
For an example of a "losing player's mentality", I told the wife this morning that "I won $73 last night." It's true, sort of. I ground out 1k hands of NL10 and was up 7 BI afterwards. But you know what? I really just won my typical 6 ptBB/100. And when I drop 3 BI in a session, I'm really just earning my typical 6 ptBB/100. Every hour I play, if I play optimally, I'm just earning my historic win rate / 100 hands. Hopefully, I'm doing slightly better if I'm learning to play better. But too many people focus on the $$/session and not how well they played.
The really valuable thing each session would be to focus on the following:
1. playing optimally
2. increasing my learning curve by working an one aspect of my game each session
3. not worry about the sessions' ups and downs
4. just count the grinding hours and multiply by BB/100 win rate and think of that as the session's earnings
Keep it coming, Spoon, any more rants building up? Post more soon
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