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    why would you give such a wide range preflop? And you don't remove TT, you give it one combo cuz that's how many are remaining.

    No idea why you'd b/f turn, I want a better argument than "to find out where we're at". River is a fold as played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    why would you give such a wide range preflop? And you don't remove TT, you give it one combo cuz that's how many are remaining.

    No idea why you'd b/f turn, I want a better argument than "to find out where we're at". River is a fold as played.
    Is 5% too wide? I'm guessing.

    TT: Leaving it in or out is 1 combo among 68 (with this range) and it's the only chop, so it's as good as bad. (Maybe bad thinking, but mostly inconsequential, as the stove equity is nearly identical.)

    I didn't say bet/fold the turn was a good choice, I said it would help narrow Villain's range, then speculated as to a line that would follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Is 5% too wide? I'm guessing.
    I think it's incorrect to assume an unknown at these stakes is 3betting AJs, KQs, 88-99, yes.
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    [QUOTE=MadMojoMonkey;2090154]Is 5% too wide? 1 combo among 68 (with this range)

    What's the point in calculating the number of hand combinations in a villains range, how does this aid the decision making process?

    Do we work out the combos that we're ahead of and behind for example if we say a villain has 68 combos in his range and we're ahead of 40 of them and behind to 28 betting for value is the best option rather than checking. But what if he raises he's only going to raise hands that beat you unless he's bluffing just go with your instinct in those spots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Is 5% too wide? 1 combo among 68 (with this range)

    What's the point in calculating the number of hand combinations in a villains range, how does this aid the decision making process?
    There is no point, counting combos is worthless until the river unless we are doing some kind of deep analysis.
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    so only calculate the no. of combos on the river before calling a bet or deciding to bet yourself? It's impractical to work out on each street and isn't very useful for decision making until the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seven-deuce View Post
    so only calculate the no. of combos on the river before calling a bet or deciding to bet yourself? It's impractical to work out on each street and isn't very useful for decision making until the river.
    Put your opponent on a range and understand combos, IE like he can have X combos of sets and 2pairs or w/e it is practical it's just better to understand how your hand is doing v there range. Knowing that they can only have 1combo of X cuz u have X is obviously super useful and you should know that but counting combos in a pre-flop spot like this is pretty worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    River is a fold as played.
    Just curious why this is? I'm trying to imagine what hands he checks the turn with after 3bet/cbet. That would be an odd line with JJ+ or Qx. I would probably *sigh* call.

    Thoughts?

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