Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
c/c turn as betting for value isn't great here. We have 10 outs to win (K/Q/J/T) and some A's to chop.

I'd check/raise all in on a board pair and c/f without a strong read he can be multi street bluffing here. Leading river makes our hand too obvious.
We gotta lead river if we get there. When we call turn, we either have a) a set, or b) an ace in rake control mode, so any villain with half a brain is going to check behind a paired river because he doesn't get called by worse, and is just increasing rake the the times he chops. There's literally no value for an ace on a paired river here, not unless he thinks we call 99 or whatever. So lead paired river big enough to make up for the bad pot odds on turn, but not so big that he folds an ace.