World War Werewolf - Game Thread

[boost]

Wouldn't that be the ultimate troll-- if there were no wolves, and Ong was just playing god, nomming us one at a time...

[Savy]

Wouldn't that be the ultimate troll-- if there were no wolves, and Ong was just playing god, nomming us one at a time...

He wouldn't even need to pick us off. He's actually playing God and given people too much power and a suspicion of all others. If he's actually done that in a world war scenario then he does deserve major rep.

[wufwugy]

actually that could be an interesting way to do a game. basically have a bunch of different powers and explicitly declare that things are not as they seem, so then like the last three remaining players are the winners, but nobody knows it until the end

[wufwugy]

i havent done that because i feel that would be too upsetting to people. i know i would be pissed if that prank was rolled on me. i mean look at how jammed up my ass my panties were in the one game that i thought dead roles were a secret

[boost]

It would be creative, but I think the game would be a thud. Think how anticlimactic the end would be.

[wufwugy]

basic

people have to feel like they earned their victory

[wufwugy]

which makes me wonder: why the fuck isnt boog playing? wtf is up with boog? dude played one of the savviest wolf games ive ever seen, but for some reason is always super afk always

[OngBonga]

sorry I got delayed...

incoming...

[JKDS]

JKDS is a wolf, here's why

he has played a bunch on mafia-scum so is probably the only one who understands how role-madness games work.

As a villager he would have pointed out that drew is as likely (if not more) a village special and slowed down the lynch rather than jumping on it with a no-content wagon pile on post. Of course the wolves don't care too much which villager gets killed as we're all specials so they don't need to special hunt.

How on earth do you come to this conclusion? BID can only ever be {Special, wolf, 3rd party}. I saw evidence that was highly probative of BID's guilt as a non-ally, and you're arguing that because there was evidence...I should have thought the opposite. Thats absurd. Yes, there are multiple ways to interpret a post; but I have never been one to shy away from my own interpretations. He claimed a role that cant exist, he has previously failed on understanding the rules, AND he didnt try and claim a real role before his death like a special usually would. There was nothing to say he wasnt a wolf and everything to say he was.

Further, you dont understand how a role madness game works. Everyone has a power, that means the relative value of Day activities decreases while the value of night actions increases. Days are simply less valuable, especially considering we likely have multiple roles that can end up proving someone as a villager. (Think of how we've confirmed villagers in the past who claimed angel/seer. The same rules apply, but we have a lot more and a lot more ways to do this). Day 1 especially, in this type of game alone where its possible half the village dies by daybreak, is almost entirely meaningless.

Also, I didnt just jump on with a "no-content wagon pile on post". He claimed he was a regular villager, and you know or should have known I voted for him as such, considering I referenced the fact when I voted. Furthermore, I actively encouraged a BID lynch, and questioned people when they disagreed with my reasoning but never got a reasonable answer to think BID was anything other than a wolf/3rd party.

I'll say this: you're probably a villager. I dont understand why you're coming forward with this nonsense, but I think you're just tunneling me with blinders on for some reason. My ego says I'm not an easy target to go after early, so i dont think a wolf would willingly choose to do so unprovoked when its not even daybreak, it just seems dangerous/risky with no real upside. Theres a possible leveling thing that may apply if I die, but I doubt thats what it is. You're better than this daven.

[wufwugy]

wow super lynch jkds. ive never seen him defend himself so much. hell as a villager last time, he was purposely trolling just because

also super lynch jyms. his slip up on saying stuff about how the retreat could be used repeatedly or didnt detract from power suggests he's a wolf who doesnt have a real retreat. or that he's on his phone and missing some thigns

[JKDS]

Wuf, you've never seen me respond with a paragraph defense before? Really? Also, you can count on 1 finger the games I've trolled and I've previously posted how I wouldnt be trolling this game. Whats going on here?

[OngBonga]

As the dust settled over Tashkent, the WNA looked at each other in stunned who gives a fuck.

"Well, spies sound pretty important, anyone else got any spies?", .

An awakward silence fell on the room. Chairs shuffled. Someone's phone bleeped, causing several people to tut.

You could cut the tension with a bus.

And then news filtered in that there had been another attack...

BREAKING NEWS!!!! BREAKING NEWS!!!!

San Salvador, El Salvador

Chaos here in El Salvador as the war spreads to Middle America.

Two large explosions rock the capital as the Royal Palace is hit by a double dirty bomb attack. King TLR is thought to have dodged the first attack but was killed when fleeing the scene.

Authorites shot and detained one assailant, while the other is believed to have escaped. The suspect in custody is in a critical condition at a military hospital, and he is believed to be Mongolian. Authorities are hunting the second suspect.

TLR has been eliminated

TLR was El Salvador and aligned to the Allies.

His role was Antirevolutionst. He was basically vigproof, and would steal their dirty bomb for his own use if attacked by vig.


The World Nations Assembly -

jkds
rong
boost
jyms
bigred
jackvance
wuf
keith
ImSavy
gabe
madmojo
daven
aubrey
gator
luco
kingnat
pascal
hoopy

The dead -

Allies -
bankitdrew - Uzbekistan - Spy - lynched day 1
TLR - El Salvador - Antirevolutionist - killed night 1

18 players remain
10 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is Tuesday 8pm ET (1am UK).

It is now day 2

[wufwugy]

Wuf, you've never seen me respond with a paragraph defense before? Really? Also, you can count on 1 finger the games I've trolled and I've previously posted how I wouldnt be trolling this game. Whats going on here?

dude the last game i hound dogged you for your weak defenses and you didn't care. now you have uber defenses and you care. in the one and only wolf game ive played, i recall using very deliberate and well-thought defenses

[wufwugy]

cant believe tlr was nom'd. poor guy. ong always tries to nom him first because ong thinks he's the most dangerous villager, but now ong isn't even playing and he still gets nom'd first.

[JKDS]

My god, you're gonna make me find games arent you? Jfc

[wufwugy]

My god, you're gonna make me find games arent you? Jfc

actually yes. if you can show precedent (omg lookit lawyery me) i will back off

[wufwugy]

lunch jums

because of this

Good catch Luco. I never saw that retreating was a permanent loss of our powers. I was wondering about being able to retreat every night and maybe surviving. I still ain't sure how this game is going to be played, it has a lot of tiwsts in that playuers are identified by country in Ongs messages but we kill the player and have no list of countries in the game. Glad you pointed that out.

If he's a villager, this suggests not only did he not fully read the thread intro, but he didn't read his PM.

so yeah, lunch jums

[wufwugy]

that also means luco is likely not wolf. if jums is wolf, that r

[jyms]

wow super lynch jkds. ive never seen him defend himself so much. hell as a villager last time, he was purposely trolling just because

also super lynch jyms. his slip up on saying stuff about how the retreat could be used repeatedly or didnt detract from power suggests he's a wolf who doesn't have a real retreat. or that he's on his phone and missing some thigns

Wow, here goes the super soul reading by wif ( spelled correct in my books) keep pumping out names of anything and anyone so long as he isn't the target,

For one, we all have a retreat, it says it in the second post by Ong. Second, I don't have my phone, it's in the shop and I am using a peice of shit BB. I borrowed a laptop to go on this trip with and will be playing the whole game on only this so no issue. As for the rule slip, I only agreed with TLR if I remember correctly, Luco noticed it and posted about it thankfully or I was going to retreat tonight.

[wufwugy]

game will totally be worth it if from now on ur jums and im wif

[Savy]

cant believe tlr was nom'd. poor guy. ong always tries to nom him first because ong thinks he's the most dangerous villager, but now ong isn't even playing and he still gets nom'd first.

Wouldn't that be the ultimate troll-- if there were no wolves, and Ong was just playing god, nomming us one at a time...

[jyms]

Why the fuck would TLR have 2 bombs tossed at him? I find it both hard to believe that there is only one team of bad guys and that TLR is so much better than anyone else in this game that everyone thinks he should die first. Are there that many guys thinking TLR is just that much better than gabe, gator, JKDS, rong, JV or Keith? And that is just the names off the top of my head.

[gabe]

lynch imsavy

sorry wuf.. by default we can't follow you early

[JKDS]

Wow, I cant believe how long its been since I was a villager o.o I dont blame you for forgetting my villager game :/

Gabe's Troll game
Rong's Feds game, I outed early as angel and rofled the wolves. Never got attacked
My Game
Wugy's Village of Souls: Wolf
My Game
Wuf's Game: Villager, bingo!

I dont remember how to use links to quote things.

The below post is evidence of logic, though not logic in defense. The following pages after this quote are filled with more.

Mentioning rilla in some offhand manner is not attacking him. You are not disproving my case. Never would villager ong EVER let rilla slide so damn much. You are distancing and avoiding him and that is incredibly uncharacteristic of you. Your votes, postings, and arguments lack the fervor of villager ong as well. Have you even called someone a cunt this game? There are so many differences here, and all of them point to wolf ong.

Dug deeper, I'm attacked by ppl on page 12 (though this is page 12, and is response to ong lynching me and casing me)

You arent active. You want to compare games? Last game you walled the fuck out of the thread. Where is that this game? Fuck jyms has more posts than you. You arent arguing with people like you usually do, you're just voting with 1 liners.

And are you kidding me with this quote? That game required that my teammates knew who I was. The strategic impact of that post is designed to signal to my team that I am on their side, hence the use of two of my team in the single post, the 'bro' word, and the fact that i immediately backed off as soon as I thought i made my case.

The strategy of lynching spidey is no where near the same, and couldnt be no matter what side you think im on. You've quoted this to attack me and get me lynched and arent thinking about my role at all.

lynch ong

Here is another defense post from the same thread, quoted in relevant part

@Rilla: I dont know what game you've been playing, but this FTR ww game has players like ong. Players that will level the shit outta themselves about shit like this. Also, i highly doubt the wolves are affected at all by having to post privately and in the thread. They already do that, there is no added pressure. Further, who's wolf game is so shaky that they would be affected by this anyway?

You're counterargument is bad, and is highly suspicious that the only thing you've done this game is push it.

This game was almost exactly last year, I am a year further into lawschool.



Also The game before this was wufinator, lol.

[jyms]

And if an Allie thinks he should waste a bomb like that on a potential allie with TLRs talents then he's not helping. I would have taken out Wuf or bigred, I think they are way more detrimental to our cause if they are Allies

[JKDS]

I dont remember who besides ong likes killing tlr early, but we should invade them. Speak up so we can invade you!

[jyms]

Then maybe I need a tinfoil hat too. This could get scary.

[wufwugy]

lynch imsavy

sorry wuf.. by default we can't follow you early

strong logic. im serious

[wufwugy]

jkds still trying too hard

[wufwugy]

seriously jewkids, where was this will to establish credibility in the last game?

[JKDS]

I stated last game, pregame, that i would troll. I stated this game, pregame, that i wouldnt. Stop being a dunce.

[jyms]

JKDS working hard but he may be just switching it up. Wuf trying hard to confuse and start a ton of wagons. I think for our sake we should end this early.

Lynch Wuf

I have good reads that both daven and MMM are Allies. I want to go back and look at the timing of that end run on BID too.

[jyms]

Also, for someone that is busy and had no time, Wif is posting a ton early

[wufwugy]

jums confirmed wolf. this should be fun

[wufwugy]

Also, for someone that is busy and had no time, Wif is posting a ton early

this is nothing, holmes

i can one-liner all day

but it's when i wall paragraphs that im putting in the time

[jyms]

jums confirmed wolf. this should be fun

Ya pretty sure you confirmed about 6 wolves last game too. Not sure you got any right

[wufwugy]

Ya pretty sure you confirmed about 6 wolves last game too. Not sure you got any right

everybody is a wolf.

they see how i roll, they hatin

[wufwugy]

seriously though, yeah 6 is actually pretty strong recollection. i hard called jkds, rong, jv, jums, bigred, and daven as wolves. was only right on daven. still got the winning strat. don't hate the player, hate that you ain't this player

[JKDS]

Invade Imsavy

I didnt like that he and others seemed to be cognizant of BID's role. He could reasonably be wary of TLR too, considering TLR was interested in who the noobs were.



Also I want to sheep gabe.

[OngBonga]

BREAKING NEWS!!! BREAKING NEWS!!!

The WNA have held yet another emergency meeting, and some bright spark suggested we take all the nuclear weapons in the world, and put them in the same place for safe keeping.

In a desperate attempt to avert all out nuclear war, the WNA have decided to issue a Nuclear Disarmament Request.



NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT

Anyone with a nuclear weapon is urged by the WNA to disarm.

Nuclear experts are said to be investigating, and it will look quite favourable indeed if you show a willingness to take a peaceful and democratic route.

If you so wish, you may give up any nuclear weapons you might have.

Please pm me saying you want to disarm, and you be no longer armed.

Those who have disarmed will report as "disarmed" if investigated by a nuclear expert.

This nuclear disarmament offer expires at the end of day 2.

[boost]

All this drama is fun, and I don't really want to lynch any actives. Can we just knock off a lurker or two?

Oh.. wait.. I pretty much am I lurker so far.. shit.. carry on...

[Savy]

Invade Imsavy

I didnt like that he and others seemed to be cognizant of BID's role. He could reasonably be wary of TLR too, considering TLR was interested in who the noobs were.
.

It's already been said multiple times that what I said was the most logical conclusion. The only reason you view it as wolfy is because the standard for established players is to scream wolf as soon as someone spells a name wrong in a post.

[jyms]

Ya JKDS, Savy and daven all piled on quick at the end there.

Lynch Savy, and if he turns up axis I can get on JKDS or daven?

[boost]

Just read the breaking news.. man.. this game is crazy. It looks like the roll of the third team has been revealed?

Ok, so did two people attack TLR? Or was that just dramatic flare? From the night recap I can't tell if TLR was nommed, or what.

[jyms]

Wow those posts come along fast at 1am.

[wufwugy]

so far i have confirmed at least 5 wolves. lol

y'all need to play more consistently. maybe then i won't confirm wolves so easily

[Luco]

TIL

1/ TLR is apparently a strong player. I've only played one game with him so the only notes I have are 'fingered keith D1'
2/ El Salvador is not a wrestler

[Hoopy]

Just read the breaking news.. man.. this game is crazy. It looks like the roll of the third team has been revealed?

Ok, so did two people attack TLR? Or was that just dramatic flare? From the night recap I can't tell if TLR was nommed, or what.

I read it as 2 people attacking him, one was a vig since TLR's vigproof blocked it but then the wolves killed him.

[Keith]

I think hoopy is on the right lines with the second dirty bomb being the wolves.Not so sure about it being 3 teams yet with nuclear inspectors as a third team. They could just be parts of roles handed out or it could be a recruiting team of nuclear inspectors with seer like ability who look someone up at night and find out if they have a dirty bomb. wolves could show up as possessing nuclear weapons but villagers could also posses a number of dirty bombs to muddy the waters.

Why would a villager and wolves both target TLR. Could be that amongst the noobs we have a wolf and a villager with dirty bomb. the villager acted in self interest and the wolves acted to protect one of their own.If the noob has multiple dirty bombs he could just target the other noobs at night to try and narrow down any wolf hiding there. wolves then have to decide if they want to take out the other noobs to target the Vig or whether their noob member is dead meat anyway since either he's last noob standing with a noob Vig dead at the wolves hands or it could have been a single shot power.
Not sure why if a noob isnt a wolf , why would wolves want to kill TLR in preference to jkds,gator,JV, gabe etc.really funny twist would be if nuclear inspectors didn't have any bombs , but could use any surrendered dirty bombs at night to kill their wolf suspects.

[Hoopy]

i've found a tell. give me at least a few days to play guys

What's this tell then Pascal?

Oh yeah:

I have not played in a while

Ridiculous day 1 hedge.

Bit of a weird thing to say.

[Luco]

Invade Imsavy

I didnt like that he and others seemed to be cognizant of BID's role. He could reasonably be wary of TLR too, considering TLR was interested in who the noobs were.



Also I want to sheep gabe.

You've mentioned this a few times now, post #90 is an example:

I'm concerned that savy and mmm chose to talk about bid as a liability instead of as a wolf given his massive wolf slip. It gives me the impression they knew he would flip villager, or at least not axis.

See, my problem with this is that you're basing it off of an expectation of how they should behave. This in itself is not a bad thing, but noob behaviour is not always predictable. Remember our first game where I got a ton of heat for refusing to vote you because apparently a villager 'always votes jkds there'? I'm trying to read our new players for who they are, not how I think they should be. Plus, mmm is one of my top villager picks right now.

I dunno, I don't think I explained myself very well there. Regardless Savy is here, new, and active so he should give his role away soon enough

[Luco]

I think hoopy is on the right lines with the second dirty bomb being the wolves.Not so sure about it being 3 teams yet with nuclear inspectors as a third team. They could just be parts of roles handed out or it could be a recruiting team of nuclear inspectors with seer like ability who look someone up at night and find out if they have a dirty bomb. wolves could show up as possessing nuclear weapons but villagers could also posses a number of dirty bombs to muddy the waters.

Why would a villager and wolves both target TLR. Could be that amongst the noobs we have a wolf and a villager with dirty bomb. the villager acted in self interest and the wolves acted to protect one of their own.If the noob has multiple dirty bombs he could just target the other noobs at night to try and narrow down any wolf hiding there. wolves then have to decide if they want to take out the other noobs to target the Vig or whether their noob member is dead meat anyway since either he's last noob standing with a noob Vig dead at the wolves hands or it could have been a single shot power.
Not sure why if a noob isnt a wolf , why would wolves want to kill TLR in preference to jkds,gator,JV, gabe etc.really funny twist would be if nuclear inspectors didn't have any bombs , but could use any surrendered dirty bombs at night to kill their wolf suspects.

Keith, please quote me a TLR post where he indicated he was going after noobs because I don't see it. All I see is a single day 1 post where he asked who the noobs are and I took that in the spirit of 'let's not lynch noobs on day 1'

[Luco]

JKDS working hard but he may be just switching it up. Wuf trying hard to confuse and start a ton of wagons. I think for our sake we should end this early.

Lynch Wuf

I have good reads that both daven and MMM are Allies. I want to go back and look at the timing of that end run on BID too.

The fuck is this? Wuf doesn't need to try to confuse us, it just happens.

Your earlier posts looked like you were grunching and trying to survive but now it looks like you're paying attention, which is it jyms?

[Luco]

All this drama is fun, and I don't really want to lynch any actives. Can we just knock off a lurker or two?

Oh.. wait.. I pretty much am I lurker so far.. shit.. carry on...

Your post count is creeping up but in terms of content you're flatlining.

[jyms]

Also, on the TLR thing, I don't think we have many noobs this game other than imsavy, I get the feeling he is a thinker though from seeing his other posts on FTR and doubt he would just premature ejaculate a dirty bomb night one on a possibly good Allie. If anything it's someone that didn't like how hard he was towning himself in his few posts he had. Him and MMM had the strongest villager vibe so I can see why the Axis wanted him out, but that other bomb is interesting.

[jyms]

I'm thinking there must be a third team. Ong's narrative mentioned having someone (mongolian) in custody in hospital in critical condition but we haven't heard who. Also thinking that this "Nuclear inspectors" squad seems like it's made up of a police or peace keeper type of player that is working against either the axis or terrorist types (vigs)

[rong]

Jesus fuck Christ. I have no idea what's going on and every time I try to catch up more stuff is posted. So this may not be relevant by now as I'm at least a page behind, but what's with the savy lynch. It's weak! And he's a noob so easy target so I'm suspicious of those bolding him.

[rong]

I still haven't read the thread properly or read the breaking news. But jyms looks so wolfy.

[jyms]

Didn't MMM call me wolfy for doing exactly what you just did rong? 48 hours in and you still have to read the thread properly? Maybe we both should just nuke each other

[JKDS]

Hrmmm jyms, Daven, and wugy get villager tags. I think Luco has a good point to, I may be confusing savy's normal tone for defensiveness. uninvade

[jackvance]

I think we should talk a bit about the rules. My power is total crap but from the narrative of my role I know a bunch of things about the structure of the game that I don't mind sharing. There is an Axis team with one Superpower and an unknown number of Subordinates. When a spy looks up the Subordinates, he'll find they are Axis but the Superpower has its base of operations hidden in some mountain so they will flip villager if looked up by a spy. So there is one alpha wolf that can't be seered.

This and the phrasing in my PM leads me to believe there is more than one spy, besides BID who we lost. And that there are more investigative roles.

A few years ago I played a game where everyone had a role on some other forum (not mafiascum) and from that I can make some conjectures. I think there are two spies left, but one might be what in that game was called a Corrupt Cop, he'll get the opposite result of the allegiance he tries to investigate. So that is something to keep in mind. If I am right then there will be 2 more spies but one of them will always get the wrong result from his lookups.

Another matter is that of visiting people, which is something I remember from that game which is in place in the game we are playing now also. It is basically an extention of the rules that when person X uses a power on person Y, this can be tracked by other players with specific powers to this effect. One such would power would be an investigate role that can look up a person and see who, if anyone, they visited at night. Another power is that you can look at a person and see who visited them at night. Both roles are probably in play and I know for a fact that the Axis have one of them (from the narrative in my PM).

There will also be a roleblocker in play, probably one on the Axis and one on the Allies side. This is actually a good example of a visiting power. If a roleblocker X blocks someone, other powers can potentially find out that X visited Y but they won't know what power was actually used. So this is another very strategic element to the game that we have never used before on FTR afaik.

[rong]

Didn't MMM call me wolfy for doing exactly what you just did rong? 48 hours in and you still have to read the thread properly? Maybe we both should just nuke each other

I haven't caught up with today. I'm up to date with yesterday.

[jackvance]

About the TLR kill. He's a pretty good player, but in the past he always got killed early because he's just so damn obvious as a villager by the way he plays. Not someone the wolves can cast doubt on with any conviction. It sucks for him to be killed again so early (I hope he doesn't get discouraged and stop playing again..) but in that light I can understand he's a good target for the wolves to kill.

[jyms]

About the TLR kill. He's a pretty good player, but in the past he always got killed early because he's just so damn obvious as a villager by the way he plays. Not someone the wolves can cast doubt on with any conviction. It sucks for him to be killed again so early (I hope he doesn't get discouraged and stop playing again..) but in that light I can understand he's a good target for the wolves to kill.

i agree, and I don't think anyone else doesn't, but why the second attack? what Allie doesn't see him as advantageous to be kept around

[Keith]

I'm thinking there must be a third team. Ong's narrative mentioned having someone (mongolian) in custody in hospital in critical condition but we haven't heard who. Also thinking that this "Nuclear inspectors" squad seems like it's made up of a police or peace keeper type of player that is working against either the axis or terrorist types (vigs)

this could just be an implementation in this game of a role which is similar to the horse thief in last game.

@luco ...can't find what gave me that impression , i thought on reading through this morning that someone was saying that TLR was killed for saying lynch noobs , but can't for the life of me find it now or what gave me that impression. However , trying to find it acme across this interchange during the night phase

#118

Ofcourse you will lose your powers, but at end game it will matter little, supposed at end game there are 4 villagers and 2 wolves and nobody retreated yet, at this point it will be often much better to completly block a night kill and lose the powers you have then to not use a night kill and lose the game if you happen to lynch a villager

Unless specific roles are known in public it is usally pretty hard to predict who will be nommed by the wolves, and often players are paranoid, so what will very likely happen is that people retreat without being targeted, or even if they retreat and are targeted it will often happen in situations/times when it will be help but not great help, so I think there is a lot of value in having all villagers at end game still having this power and collectivly using it to gain an extra day. There are obvious downsides to it (wolves will know when it happens, so they do not have to worry about retreats in all other nights for example)
I still think it is an option that is at least worth considering

#119

Hmm, ok I see what you're driving at

#120

This is my first ever game where night talking is allowed, although looking back it used to be quite common here at ftr. Why did it stahp? I guess it's harder for the wolves because they don't have dedicated strategy time if the game is always open

TLr's post is probably what got him killed to stop the discussion of the allies using the retreat strategically.I can't work out whether Luco's reaction questioning why talking at night stopped is irrelevant or a wolf slip.
On the villager side , i can't see why luco if he was a wolf would want me to go back and examine TLR's posts if that was the reason that TLR got killed.

[bigred]

What is Jv's motivation for the multiple seer post?

I would think a villager might want to sit on this a little longer. A wolf on the other hand may want to spread misinformation such as this corrupt spy role where roles turn up opposite. Seems like a nice combination with the fact that JV is high on the list of first night lookups. Make that spy question his reveal.

[JKDS]

A few years ago I played a game where everyone had a role on some other forum (not mafiascum) and from that I can make some conjectures. I think there are two spies left, but one might be what in that game was called a Corrupt Cop, he'll get the opposite result of the allegiance he tries to investigate. So that is something to keep in mind. If I am right then there will be 2 more spies but one of them will always get the wrong result from his lookups.

A corrupt cop is certainly a possible role, however, Ong stated some hatred in some of my previous games about these kinds of roles. I highly doubt he'd include a troll role like this. You're spot on about the rest.

[Luco]

TLr's post is probably what got him killed to stop the discussion of the allies using the retreat strategically.I can't work out whether Luco's reaction questioning why talking at night stopped is irrelevant or a wolf slip.
On the villager side , i can't see why luco if he was a wolf would want me to go back and examine TLR's posts if that was the reason that TLR got killed.

That question about night talking wasn't a reaction, it was a legit question unconnected to my previous post. I also never got an answer to it btw

[GatorJH]

I hate OngBonga.

I made the fatal mistake in clicking on that link because everyone here has a special role and I wanted to get some info in the roles possible.

Hoy shit!!! I did not realize how basic our games were and have now been sucked into reading a shitton of stuff on that site.

I feel like such a noob now.

[bigred]

Day 2 seems like a bunch of over excited villagers fueled by having a role. Let's nail one of the following:


Posts 6 jackvance
Posts 6 GatorJH
Posts 6 Pascal
Posts 5 BankItDrew
Posts 5 boost
Posts 4 Keith
Posts 4 MadMojoMonkey
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[GatorJH]

Catching up on the thread now.

Surely it's just a case of MMM mistaking TLR & JKDS because TLR is on the list twice. It doesn't make any sense for TLR to be on both the happy to lynch and wildcard list when no one else is.

Would lead me to think that if MMM or TLR is a wolf then the other one is slightly more likely to be just for the fact that the only way I can see mixing them two up being possible would be if the name was on his mind for some reason.

I am not sure this means much and actually looks more like a villager slip than a wolf slip. Typically when wolves put together lists they are VERY careful in where they put a fellow wolf in the list so a slip up like this doesn't make any sense to me.

[Luco]

Day 2 seems like a bunch of over excited villagers fueled by having a role. Let's nail one of the following:


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You missed one

[jyms]

Day 2 seems like a bunch of over excited villagers fueled by having a role. Let's nail one of the following:


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This post is such Lulz

[jyms]

recsind Savy lynch bigred

[bigred]

This post is such Lulz

Your face is lulz. I don't want to end up in the same situation we did last game with very little information on the final few players.