***Werewolves of Dune - Gameplay Thread***

[TLR]

Iamthenewfish annoys the hell out of me, if you are really the seer dont you think you have better plays to derail a random day 1 badwagon.

I am going to stick to my Vaks vote because I have no idea who he/she is and he/she did not post anything so far.

[Icanhastreebet]

omg lynch supahaole

so obv etc.

"um pm" Who deos taht? Especially smoenoe who has pyeald bofere?

[Icanhastreebet]

Elepcilsay*

Yes I think this was very important to correct.

[philly and the phanatics]

ok so before i go to bed wanted to hook us up with this recap so far of where the voting stands

Vaks-3 (tlr + hoopy+ JV)
supa 2 (flomo + treebet)
Boog 2 (carrots + Willbur)
Fish 2 (supa + boog)
Trip 1 (rilla)
Big red 1 (gator)
Keith 1 (fish)
Philly 1 (trip)


still waiting on votes from Myself/Hoopy/benny/keith/Dan/Big Red/ Vaks (we havent even had a post from the last two yet and i think flomo/rilla/trip/3bet have had meaningless contribution so far)

[Keith]

can't help finding it funny that people are moaning about my "long" post when it has kicked off some interesting action.looking at the action at the top of this page , getting worried dan ? (joke) its possible that with his one fingered typing and his post starting a new page that he didn't see newfish's wolf post.

A minute later Boog posts his reply , but why would newfish's revelation ruin the game for the wolves? And why would he be concerned about it?
14 minutes later fish comes back claiming to be a villager and KNOWING that i am a wolf and the boog is likely to be a wolf. How can he KNOW that i am a wolf? the only people who know if the others are villagers or wolves are the wolves.And a dying wolf can help one of his team mates by calling them a wolf.

AH , you might be thinking i've slipped up.....but this is exactly the same scenario me and wilbur used to win previously. There is no way that i would be allowed to get away without being looked up if i was a wolf and fish is a wolf.So attempting the same method again would be stupid and lose two wolves. Naming boog however as a likely wolf , is this fish making another mistake or just retribution against boog?

3minutes later philly lynches fish and 8 minutes later fish comes out with his seer claim. I don't see how he could be the seer. Claiming to be a wolf would gain him nothing if he was the seer because the wolves would lynch him just as easily as villagers would. His wolf claim therefore gained him no information to use as the seer and instead would just ensure that a bandwagon started on him.

His Seer claim however looks like it could have been a result of frantic emails between the wolves trying to flush out a newbie seer to try and salvage some information for themselves.

If he's just a villager, what do we gain from keeping him alive , he's likely to flit from wagon to wagon and quite likely to be lynching from spite rather than evidence. As the game proceeds , lynches tend to be evidence based, and if things go badly the village soon gets to a point of having to hit a wolf. At that point the luxury of culling liabilities is lost to the village and the wolves are unlikely to be eating him .

I'd still lynch him , but could a boog lynch give us some more info ? if boogs a wolf i'm pretty sure that fish would be a wolf too.

[Carroters]

Wat

[BennyLaRue]

I kind of believe supa's PM thing was just a massive fail. He's probably really a villager.

The rest of you might be wolves though.

Lynch Vaks. This lack of participation will not stand.

[GatorJH]

Anybody seen Bigred?

[Warpe]

from signup thread:

I'll be in the UK until the 26th but I'm in.

[supa]

They don't have the internet in the UK yet?

[WillburForce]

woo. NewFish brings the crazyness.

I agree with him prob just being a villager. I don't think we should lynch in case he is the seer.

I'll stick with my Boog lynch, but could go for a Vaks if he doesn't show up. Inactives are just annoying.

[Warpe]

24 hrs

[BooG690]

I'm quite sure Keith is high. However, Keith's post is pretty much the exact reason we should get rid of Newfish and nip this in the bud. Somehow my getting irritated that Newfish is trolling this game (which I think is valid reason to get irritated) is reason enough to lynch me? Does anyone see how Newfish can lead to the village going in the wrong direction in the future? Newfish is bad for the village...end of story. Also, for reasons that Carroters outlined, he's most likely not a special role. Shit, he's probably not even a wolf, but he's just bad for the village (which is reason enough for a Day 1 lynch).

And some real talk: if Newfish IS in fact a wolf (and his "outing" wasn't any kind of planned strategy), I'd of COURSE be pissed for the game's sake. It would be pretty unfair that the wolves got stuck with a child/troll on their team and a villager win would be pretty much undeserved.

[philly and the phanatics]

well wolves had freebie last time with me being gone in day one :-p....lvls....

newfish hasnt posted in a while so i guess he doesnt know what to say, i know hes been around ive even asked him to post while we were both in IRC a couple of times last night...although its pretty early for washington right now (i think 9am) so i say give him more time to make his defense and actually say something.

can anyone who played that last game with Supa confirm whether or not you got a PM if you were a villager 2 games ago, bc that would go a long way in stomping out the flames to this fire.

[BooG690]

Post #36 philly.

[flomo]

supa
newfish
hopydude
vaks

i could hop on any of these bandwagons, i'm already in for supa as of now.

[philly and the phanatics]

supa
newfish
hopydude
vaks

i could hop on any of these bandwagons, i'm already in for supa as of now.

flomo comes in and points out 2 people who we are all fairly sure are villagers, hoopy dude (all hes done is say he wants to go after inactives - standard tactics) and Vaks (now hes using those standard tactics to go after an inactive)


lynch flomo

also good looks boog, given gator saying this i doubt very highly that supa is a wolf obviously im not completely ruling anything out but yea ....

we've established newfish isnt likely to be a wolf (although im still game with lynching him too like ive said 0293812030 times) ...

also i am game with a vaks lynch but i think id rather give him at least until after the weekend to respond

[Imthenewfish]

rescynd keith
lynch philly

[philly and the phanatics]

rescynd keith
lynch philly

rofl....ok so does that say enough for you guys? he obviously really cares about this game and is putting a lot of effort

rescind flomo lynch newfish

2 more and we can get this guy out of the game he had all night to come up with something to say after carrots response and everyoens response and he has done nothing but some 1 liner

[BooG690]

Philly, your logic on Day 1 hurts my brain. Pro tip: Day 1 logic is non-existent.

Flomo's list has one thing in common: they're all NOOBS.

[Imthenewfish]

rescynd philly
lynch keith

[Carroters]

Think it's looking unlikely that this kid is gonna decide to play seriously anytime soon...

[Keith]

i agree lynch newfish

[philly and the phanatics]

i agree lynch newfish

1 more....

[philly and the phanatics]

1 more....

oh shit i thought it was 5 votes to lynch not 10 lol sorry

[rong]

I could be down with lynching newfish. Seems a little silly to be lynching what is practically a confirmed villager (using Carroter's theory which makes sense), but he is gonna be a waste of space anyway, not sure if we can even count on him to vote later in the game when we may need every villager voting, so what the hell. It's not like we have a good lead to go on anyway, it's day one. lynch newfish

[Imthenewfish]

Dont lynch me im the vig

[philly and the phanatics]

plz dont lynch me im the vag

fyp

[Carroters]

Sigh I don't care if he's a villager, lynching him is defo far better than lynching any other villager and he will be of 0 use and much annoyance as the game progresses.

lynch imthenewfish

[Carroters]

I should say rescind boog,

lynch imthenewfish.

[BennyLaRue]

Guys, I understand the newfish thing, I do. But Vaks is either going to be modkilled or operate as an empty seat for some time still. Even if there is only a 20% chance that newfish really is a special role, isn't it better to weed Vaks out now in the hopes that newfish stops trolling soon and contributes?

[Icanhastreebet]

rescind supa, lynch vaks

[Icanhastreebet]

oh for the reasons benny mentioned obviously

[philly and the phanatics]

Guys, I understand the newfish thing, I do. But Vaks is either going to be modkilled or operate as an empty seat for some time still. Even if there is only a 20% chance that newfish really is a special role, isn't it better to weed Vaks out now in the hopes that newfish stops trolling soon and contributes?

ok heres my stance on the vaks thing=

you say you want to leave newfish alone for the 20% chance hes a special (way less than that obviously) ...isnt there the same likelyhood vaks is one, we started on a friday and its not even monday, give vaks another day to get online and participate if he still doesnt then fine, if he gets mod killed then even better we dont waste a lynch. As far as i can see its just as likely vaks is a special as it is newfish is (infact possibly more likely given the fact that newfish wouldnt troll so hard if he was a special)

Why give the benefit of the doubt to someone who we have asked to stop trolling and to post something meaningful and has done the opposite, when Vaks could just have been out of town for a weekend and could be like the seer or some shit omg!!!.

[Imthenewfish]

rescynd whoever
lynch imthenewfish. i.
a wolf

[lolzzz_321]

why are we lynching a guy who is obv a villager? we can just ignore his poasts

[philly and the phanatics]

idk cause its really tilting but if someoen comes up with a better person to lynch im all ears

[jackvance]

Well whatever he is, he should be banned from all future ww games obviously. We can kill him (I'm leaning more and more towards it) but it's just gonna be a villager..

[Keith]

better to lynch a complete idiot villager (who has now twice claimed to be a wolf)than a non posting special.Vaks and WeePinkie will have to start posting soon though to avoid the rope tomorrow.

[WillburForce]

rescynd whoever
lynch imthenewfish. i.
a wolf

who is this guy? Why act like such a knob?

Recind Boog. Lynch NewFish.

[a500lbgorilla]

lynch vaks

I liked the part where Caroters confirms that newfish has no concept of how not to be a fag.

[BennyLaRue]

Why give the benefit of the doubt to someone who we have asked to stop trolling and to post something meaningful and has done the opposite, when Vaks could just have been out of town for a weekend and could be like the seer or some shit omg!!!.

It's very simple: Vaks isn't somebody who posts a lot. I don't have faith he's going to actively participate without a history of seeing the guy here more than once or twice a week.

[BennyLaRue]

Looking at his profile page, Vaks hasn't posted on FTR at all since last Tuesday night (Wednesday AM).

[rong]

Thats the downside to lynching vaks, he could actually be a special, and losing the seer on day one really fucks the game for the villlage. That said, it's monday now, the weekends over, so if he doesn't post today, maybe he's a better choice.

[TLR]

Thats the downside to lynching vaks, he could actually be a special, and losing the seer on day one really fucks the game for the villlage. That said, it's monday now, the weekends over, so if he doesn't post today, maybe he's a better choice.

If he does not know if the game started or not and is not participating then even if he is a special role it does not help us much

[GatorJH]

If he does not know if the game started or not and is not participating then even if he is a special role it does not help us much

I agree with this. And even if he is a special role he will be even more of a liability due to his lack of interest.

On the same hand, however is Bigred. He is an experienced player (I know he is in Europe but should still have access to the game) and has not checked in either. If Bigred truly doesn't have access to the internet and won't be back until Friday that too kills the village.

This game is already getting off on a clusterfuck. I hope it gets better after the next day or two or a lot of people (including myself) will lose interest pretty quickly.

[BennyLaRue]

On the same hand, however is Bigred.

I'd like to take my time with that one...lynch long and slow with his face buried in a pillow and no one to hear his...

Wait, inside voice, Benny.

[TLR]

I agree with this. And even if he is a special role he will be even more of a liability due to his lack of interest.

On the same hand, however is Bigred. He is an experienced player (I know he is in Europe but should still have access to the game) and has not checked in either. If Bigred truly doesn't have access to the internet and won't be back until Friday that too kills the village.

This game is already getting off on a clusterfuck. I hope it gets better after the next day or two or a lot of people (including myself) will lose interest pretty quickly.

I tend to give bigred more slack, I agree that if does not get involved at some level by day 3 or so of the game we should lynch him, but I think there is a decent chance he will get active once he get back from the UK, on the choice of lynching an MIA unknown or MIA bigred I prefer to lynch the unknown for now

[BennyLaRue]

Unofficial vote recap:

Vaks 6 (tlr + hoopy+ JV + BennyLaRue + treebet + vaks)
Newfish 6 (supa + boog + philly + Keith + Carroters + Wilbur)
supa 1 (flomo)
Big red 1 (gator)
Keith 1 (fish)
Philly 1 (trip)

It's very possible one or more of flomo, Gator and Trip are wolves, trying to avoid looking like bandwagoneers.

[GatorJH]

So, which bandwagon am I avoiding? Of the two I would rather lynch newfish, but there are potential consequences with that one and I as for Vaks I have already stated that if he hasn't posted by this afternoon that I will gladly vote for him.

Btw, I do find it interesting that both you and TLR seem to deflect from Bigred whenever I bring up that he too has been absent.

[TLR]

So, which bandwagon am I avoiding? Of the two I would rather lynch newfish, but there are potential consequences with that one and I as for Vaks I have already stated that if he hasn't posted by this afternoon that I will gladly vote for him.

Btw, I do find it interesting that both you and TLR seem to deflect from Bigred whenever I bring up that he too has been absent.

I am not trying to deflect anything from bigred if he is not participating, I am just willing to give him a bit more slack for not posting at day 1 as I do with any other veteran who is playing. In addition if bigred is a villager/special role he will probably be more valuable to the village then vaks

[BennyLaRue]

So, which bandwagon am I avoiding? Of the two I would rather lynch newfish, but there are potential consequences with that one and I as for Vaks I have already stated that if he hasn't posted by this afternoon that I will gladly vote for him.

Btw, I do find it interesting that both you and TLR seem to deflect from Bigred whenever I bring up that he too has been absent.

I defended him once. Wolves exaggerate.

I see both bigred and Vaks as being in the same situation, but favor keeping bigred since we know he'll be back tomorrow and then will basically live on the boards. We get info from active players, evidence of which camp they belong to. Villagers should like active players.

I can't understand why you favor Vaks over bigred though if both are inactives, as you point out. You haven't actually given a reason but with 6 votes vs. your 1 that isn't amounting to anything, you'd think you'd switch to the inactive with the better chance of getting voted out. At the very least, switch to newfish so we can get going here. There's merit to being rid of him too, I just think less merit than Vaks.

[GatorJH]

Honestly based on the luck the village has had recently I would rather not lynch either one. My initial vote of bigred was more of a joke/history between us than anything.

At this point I think a lynch newfish is our best move.

[BennyLaRue]

What's the rule on self-lynching? Because in my count, I neglected to add newfish's vote for himself.

[BennyLaRue]

Yeah, sorry guys, I fucked up that count. I think this is goot now.

Unofficial vote recap:

Newfish 8 (supa + boog + philly + Keith + Carroters + Wilbur + newfish + Gator)
Vaks 6 (tlr + hoopy+ JV + BennyLaRue + treebet + rilla)
supa 1 (flomo)
Philly 1 (trip)

[TLR]

It would be rather sad if newfish is the seer

[Keith]

if he was the seer , why say that he was a wolf with one vote against him originally? Thats only going to attract more votes and gain him nothing. I think he's more likely to be a wolf than the seer and most likely a villager but definately not a villager at heart, and will most likely ruin the game for the village in a childish tantrum rather than play the game in the spirit that its allways been played in.

[supa]

The point everyone seems to be missing is the very essence of the game: information.

A vaks lynch nets the village zero information whereas a douchefish lynch gives us 3 long and painful (kinda like what benny wants to do to bigred) pages of useful info no matter what his role is.

[supa]

What's the rule on self-lynching? Because in my count, I neglected to add newfish's vote for himself.

Pretty sure it's modkill and ban.

[rong]

Yeah, sorry guys, I fucked up that count. I think this is goot now.

Unofficial vote recap:

Newfish 8 (supa + boog + philly + Keith + Carroters + Wilbur + newfish + Gator)
Vaks 6 (tlr + hoopy+ JV + BennyLaRue + treebet + rilla)
supa 1 (flomo)
Philly 1 (trip)

You missed me, first post of the page

[rong]

Pretty sure it's modkill and ban.

Yep, far as I'm aware, so Warpe, if you're gonna modkill, do it before night, I want to lynch someone today!

[philly and the phanatics]

i dont care who i vote for between the two of them....its gay how the village gets pwned with an inactive and a little brat to start out with the early shot to the foot. Basically the wolves get to nommm someone before we get a real lynch cause we have to weed out vaks/fish

basically cause im hoping warpe will modkill fish for lynching himself i am going to

rescind newfish lynch vaks

[BooG690]

Hmm...this brings up a good point. Can we request a modkill rather than using up a lynch on newfish?

[rong]

Hmm...this brings up a good point. Can we request a modkill rather than using up a lynch on newfish?

Nevermind request, if it's the rules then it has to happen.

[BennyLaRue]

You missed me, first post of the page

Ok, so with that and Philly's flip, it's 8-7 newfish over Vaks.

[philly and the phanatics]

Nevermind request, if it's the rules then it has to happen.

so then switch to a vaks lynch so we can get both of them ldo

[BooG690]

Rescind Newfish
Lynch Vaks

Warpe, I take it we're modkilling self-lynchers as has been the precedent set in the past.

[Warpe]

Modkills are at the moderator's discretion.

[GatorJH]

I am betting that the wolves are sitting back and laughing at the potential to remove two villagers from the game in one day.

Unless one of them is a wolf a lynch ÷ modkill only helps the wolves and anyone who suggests that move heads to the top of my potential wolf list.

[BennyLaRue]

I am betting that the wolves are sitting back and laughing at the potential to remove two villagers from the game in one day.

Yeah, it sucks hard. Is there a Werewolf banned list maintained anywhere?

[supa]

Agree with Gator but I'm confident enough that fish is a wolf that I'm willing to risk it. I'm not at all cool with a Vaks lynch right now because it doesn't seem like his absentness has anything to do with the game (ie: maybe he fell down a well).

I won't be pushing the issue anymore but I also won't be changing my vote, although with newfishes self lynch I think we had 10 for a minute.

[Warpe]

Ok, so with that and Philly's flip, it's 8-7 newfish over Vaks.

I had newf at 9 until boog's rescind (newf's self-vote counts).

Somebody else tally and post pls. At work and busy.

[philly and the phanatics]

I am betting that the wolves are sitting back and laughing at the potential to remove two villagers from the game in one day.

Unless one of them is a wolf a lynch ÷ modkill only helps the wolves and anyone who suggests that move heads to the top of my potential wolf list.

lol ok so then what great idea do you have?

based on the voting (and the amount of time we have left) id say all thats possible right now is either a Newfish or a Vaks lynch....so obviously your saying spare newfish and ignore him amirite? cause if we get new fish now everyones just going to want to get vaks next round (hence why im down to just get this over with and kill 2 birds with 1 stone).

so if we just go with a Vaks lynch who are you proposing we go after tomorrow???? and you really just plan on ignoring Fish the whole time?

[philly and the phanatics]

heres who voted for who so far (i think i got it right)
BennyLaRue-vaks
GatorJH-newfish
HoopyDude- vaks
a500lbgorilla-Vaks
Imthenewfish- newfish
DanAronG- newfish
supahole- newfish
philly and the phanatics- vaks
WillburForce-fish
Keith_MM- Newfish
Vaks
TLR- vaks
Carroters- newfish
BooG690- vaks
jackvance- vaks
bigred
Icanhastreebet- vaks
flomo- supa
lolzzz_321- Philly

so thats 8 for vaks
7 for fish

pretty sure me and boog would be willing to go either way on those (boog prob preferring a fish lynch) so can we get a moderator decision before we figure out what we want to do?....


also i just saw you voted for Newfish gator, so then are you suggesting we just dont lynch vaks at all?

[BennyLaRue]

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